[emt1581]

Originally Posted by Warp

I don't even have a semi auto rifle beyond a couple .22lrs and an SKS yet.

I'm not sure of your financial resources but an AR or AK would be at the top of my list, right about the same level of at least a case of ammo, if I didn't have one.

Still an SKS is MUCH better than nothing. That is one capable rifle!!! I've got 3 or 4 of them.

-Emt1581

[Warp]

Originally Posted by emt1581

I'm not sure of your financial resources but an AR or AK would be at the top of my list, right about the same level of at least a case of ammo, if I didn't have one.

Still an SKS is MUCH better than nothing. That is one capable rifle!!! I've got 3 or 4 of them.

-Emt1581

I am far more concerned with handguns/carry guns. I have a nice shotgun and the SKS isn't terrible, either.

Every time spendable money comes up there is always something higher on the list. Last year I could have swung a a BR or EBR or whatever if I did it right/differently but ended up handing two new handguns in new calibers instead.

[emt1581]

Originally Posted by Warp

I am far more concerned with handguns/carry guns. I have a nice shotgun and the SKS isn't terrible, either.

Every time spendable money comes up there is always something higher on the list. Last year I could have swung a a BR or EBR or whatever if I did it right/differently but ended up handing two new handguns in new calibers instead.

It's late on a Sunday....what exactly is a BR/EBR?

What do you mean by "handing two new handguns"? You got them or gave them?

I'd agree that CCW pieces are a more important place to start at this particular place in time. I'd want a pump 12ga. right after than and then a semi-auto x39/5.56 next though.

-Emt1581

[Warp]

Originally Posted by emt1581

It's late on a Sunday....what exactly is a BR/EBR?

What do you mean by "handing two new handguns"? You got them or gave them?

I'd agree that CCW pieces are a more important place to start at this particular place in time. I'd want a pump 12ga. right after than and then a semi-auto x39/5.56 next though.

-Emt1581

Battle Rifle/Evil Black Rifle. I don't usually use acronyms but I figured regulars on this forum would be familiar.

I'm up to three Glocks (all with good holsters, ammo, and night sites), two good revolvers, a nice 870 (knoxx spec ops stock, tritium ghost rings, side saddle), a couple .22lrs, a Mosin Nagant and the SKS.

I might get a lever action .357/.30-30 next though.

[emt1581]

Originally Posted by Warp

Battle Rifle/Evil Black Rifle. I don't usually use acronyms but I figured regulars on this forum would be familiar.

I'm up to three Glocks (all with good holsters, ammo, and night sites), two good revolvers, a nice 870 (knoxx spec ops stock, tritium ghost rings, side saddle), a couple .22lrs, a Mosin Nagant and the SKS.

I might get a lever action .357/.30-30 next though.

IMO, lever actions serve no purpose compared to a semi-auto (AK/AR). I've never owned one and don't plan to. But that's me. I also HATE pistol calibered carbines other than .22lr..

Good luck with whatever you buy!

-Emt1581

[quake]

Originally Posted by emt1581

...I also HATE pistol calibered carbines other than .22lr...

Oy; don't get me started on that...

[LongGun1]

Originally Posted by quake

Oy; don't get me started on that...

If you get a chance..

..take a look at my post earlier this evening concerning the PRVI 147 gr performance with the 15 lb recoil spring.

[jkd301]

Originally Posted by emt1581

What was the name of the class? I've taken tons of them and never heard of such a thing.

-Emt1581

Advance Acquisition Planning was the title of the course and after I checked my records it was 07 I took it. It was actually one part of a 4 day school I attended. The instructors were DHS, FBI and military can't remember what branch. It was for LEO's from various agencies mostly police chiefs and sheriff's ect. there were even some SWAT people there from someplace in Texas. I noticed on the paperwork it says "DO NOT DISEMINATE" OOPS

[quake]

Originally Posted by LongGun1

If you get a chance..

..take a look at my post earlier this evening concerning the PRVI 147 gr performance with the 15 lb recoil spring.

That's messed up. Did you happen to chrono any of it? I shoot a fair amount of 147 & 158 9mm subsonics and other than one particular (old) Federal load, I don't recall having any functional problems with any of it.

Makes me wonder if that PRVI stuff is seriously light-loaded velocity-wise, especially with the reduced-power recoil spring. Not sure, but isn't the factory standard recoil spring on a G19 something like 17-18 lbs? If it won't cycle a 15-lb - although potentially niche-useful as a manual repeater - I'd be very leery of it power-wise. Subsonic 9mm's are inherently weak from an energy perspective, and an under-loaded subsonic would be getting unecessarily low power-wise.

[LongGun1]

Originally Posted by quake

That's messed up. Did you happen to chrono any of it? I shoot a fair amount of 147 & 158 9mm subsonics and other than one particular (old) Federal load, I don't recall having any functional problems with any of it.

Makes me wonder if that PRVI stuff is seriously light-loaded velocity-wise, especially with the reduced-power recoil spring. Not sure, but isn't the factory standard recoil spring on a G19 something like 17-18 lbs? If it won't cycle a 15-lb - although potentially niche-useful as a manual repeater - I'd be very leery of it power-wise. Subsonic 9mm's are inherently weak from an energy perspective, and an under-loaded subsonic would be getting unecessarily low power-wise.

We were having too much fun with the binary explosive & new toys to set up a chronograph!

Next range session I am going to bring some other brands of subsonic....like the Remington just purchased...just to be sure it is not a platform issue.

The new 40Osprey will be in jail for the next 1/2 year or so..

..but I will see if there are other cans (with a Nielson) available to recheck compatibility & reliability.

I may also get a 11 and/or 13 lb spring for testing..

..but have concerns of increased noise thru the ejection port while suppressed.



All that being said....it appears your assessment is "spot on"..

..& the PRVI is simply wimpy!


Which is sad, because the price is right..

..about 1/2 the price of the Remington 147 gr..

..and I have been very pleased with their other offerings..

..especially concerning accuracy & reliability.



Concerning the recent forecast on the increased amount of opportunistic cannibals if SHTF..

..good inexpensive reliable subsonics could play an important part!

[LongGun1]

Originally Posted by emt1581

IMO, lever actions serve no purpose compared to a semi-auto (AK/AR). I've never owned one and don't plan to. But that's me. I also HATE pistol calibered carbines other than .22lr..

Good luck with whatever you buy!

-Emt1581

You have a point & for most worst case scenarios I agree..

..but consider this..

..they suppress well & you have commonality of ammo.

[quake]

Originally Posted by LongGun1

...but consider this..

..they suppress well & you have commonality of ammo.

{to self} "Must resist threadjack... must resist threadjack..."

[LongGun1]

Originally Posted by quake

{to self} "Must resist threadjack... must resist threadjack..."

You did a fine job!


More on this week...

Ordered 4 boxes of non-corrosive 7.62x54R (from Novosibirsk Cartridge Plant ...same plant as 7N1) for testing

Ordered Wolff XP Magazine Springs for the Glock 19...(OEM springs are getting weak)

Ordered 4 boxes of Silver Bear 9mm 145grn HP for testing in the suppressed G19..

..wanting a reliable, inexpensive, barely subsonic load I can stock-up on!


Investing lots-of-time in projects..

..but on my slack time completed "The Hunger Games" trilogy!

If you like rebellion to tyranny....good series!

My youngest daughter also loves the series..

..we both plan to see the movie on the 23rd!

[UneasyRider]

Originally Posted by LongGun1

..but on my slack time completed "The Hunger Games" trilogy!

If you like rebellion to tyranny....good series!

My youngest daughter also loves the series..

..we both plan to see the movie on the 23rd!

I loved "The Hunger Games" can't wait for the movie!

[Glocksanity]

I bought spare springs, extractors, recoil spring assemblies, and pins for my G21, G26, G30, and G34. Also got a 20 piece lock pick set as well as an Ontario Machete and a Kabar Becker companion knife with micarta handles.

It's my birthday. I get to buy fun stuff!

[kirgi08]

We have at least 2 rebuilds for every Glock we own,that's 18 kits.'08.

[dissthis]

--Acquired 100 Mercury dimes.
--Bought a surgical kit (need more sutures)
--Bought some surplus camos (US and Brit), Vertex and Tru-spec pants
--added some additional mags for carry gun
--wife bought lots of meat to freeze
--batteries every time I go to Home Depot
--got some storage bins and organizers to tidy up prep room (sitting on floor currently)

[Tom Kanik]

Picked up some more first-aid supplies, canned goods, and cut some downed tree limbs for firewood. Also refilled a propane tank.

[DoctaGlockta]

Purchased "The Saints" a history of the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Great insights on what happened to Rhodesia and how the rest of the Western world left Rhodesia to fight for themselves. Really interesting group of chaps the RLI. Brave guys from Rhodesia and other parts of Africa (US as well) that fought off the Communist ZIRPA and ZANLA.

[M1A Shooter]

had to bring my wife back to reality while she was watching doomsday preppers today. she kept texting me at work about barbed wire and molotove coctails from barter stashes of alcohol and such

did get her charged up about getting a bigger garden going this year and possibly building a privacy fence and maybe chickens too.

[RWBlue]

Still working on funding my Roth IRA.

[sebecman]

Originally Posted by M1A Shooter

molotove coctails from barter stashes of alcohol and such

Don't worry, won't happen unless you are stocking Everclear or maybe bacardi 151.

I have used 151 as a fire starter on occasion but I doubt it would make a suitable molotov. It will burn right from the bottle but it is a weak flame.

Molotovs are usually gasoline mixed with dish soap to make it stick like napalm.

[kirgi08]

Flaked laundry detergent works better.'08.

[kirgi08]

Originally Posted by M1A Shooter

had to bring my wife back to reality while she was watching doomsday preppers today. she kept texting me at work about barbed wire and molotove coctails from barter stashes of alcohol and such

did get her charged up about getting a bigger garden going this year and possibly building a privacy fence and maybe chickens too.

Start with rabbits.'08.

[Donn57]

Originally Posted by kirgi08

Start with rabbits.'08.

Rabbits lay eggs? Who knew?