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Old 01-01-2012, 08:12   #1
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Current values of Colt/Essex 1911?

I found a great condition s/s Colt slide on Essex frame for sale locally. Has faux pearl grips and I cannot see any flaws from photos. He's asking $600 for it and I was wondering if that was a good deal or not. I'm looking for an entry level 1911 for $600. Will only use it range. Thanks and happy new year.

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Old 01-01-2012, 08:28   #2
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Too much IMO. You could get a new SA with a full warranty for that price and not have a parts gun that has who knows what done to it.
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:40   #3
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Too much IMO. You could get a new SA with a full warranty for that price and not have a parts gun that has who knows what done to it.
I agree 100%. The thing is, I want something different than a GI by SA since all my friends have them as well. I'd Iike something American made and stainless finish so I was just wondering if this was a good choice. Thanks.
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Old 01-01-2012, 16:27   #4
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I agree 100%. The thing is, I want something different than a GI by SA since all my friends have them as well. I'd Iike something American made and stainless finish so I was just wondering if this was a good choice. Thanks.
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Old 01-01-2012, 16:55   #5
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Op,......is it nickel plated?
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Old 01-01-2012, 16:59   #6
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Op,......is it nickel plated?
Good question, I will ask.

Can anyone explain why someone would remove a Colt slide from the frame and install it on an Essex frame? Is it like putting a 4 cylinder in a Vette?

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Old 01-01-2012, 17:47   #7
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If it is nickel,......I would avoid it like the plague!
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Old 01-01-2012, 17:50   #8
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as for value 300 if it shoots it's a budget built parts gun . looks like an old colt slide (not rare or expensive) and alot of cheap parts on a cheap cast frame.. If you know 1911's it might be a fun project, I would steer clear.
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Old 01-01-2012, 17:50   #9
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If it is nickel,......I would avoid it like the plague!
Really? I thought nickel finishes were highly sought after. Why is it bad on the Colt?
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Old 01-01-2012, 18:08   #10
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It can be damaged bt some cleaners, I believe it is Hoppes #9.
It can also trap corrosion under the finish, creating a bubble of sorts.
It is also a rather costly to de-plate the finish if you wish to refinish.

It can not just be blasted, polished or recoated.
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I see. I hope my nickel model 19 revolver doesn't do that lol.

The seller lowered the price to $500, I think I'm going to buy it. It will make a good project gun and I can slowly upgrade the internals myself (if needed).
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:24   #12
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Cool,.......enjoy!
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:46   #13
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I see. I hope my nickel model 19 revolver doesn't do that lol.

The seller lowered the price to $500, I think I'm going to buy it. It will make a good project gun and I can slowly upgrade the internals myself (if needed).
That's still $200 over what it's worth. Have you looked in the for sale section?

http://glocktalk.com/classifieds/sho...eries-80&cat=5
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:38   #14
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With the possible finish issues, poor pictures, unknown fitting, I would
pass on it. If it were local and could be inspected & shot prior I would
consider making an offer. But with the info you provided, and this being
your first 1911,..........I'd say it's a poor decision!
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:48   #15
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Understood. I'm meeting up with him at a LGS and may even fire it.

I will offer him $400 cash and see what he says (assuming I like what I see)

Thanks all.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:50   #16
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One of my local gun shops specializes in collector weapons. The owners particular specialty is 1911s. He had a beautifully blued Essex that he sold for $500; it is, after all, a parts gun.
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I will also add that I'm also looking at a SA Loaded Combat. Seller wants 850 (yikes) but its purty.
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Found an interesting thread for you...

http://forum.m1911.org/archive/index.php/t-9536.html
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No way I'd buy an Essex framed gun, they aren't known for quality and consistency.
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:09   #20
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Thanks GV, I also came across that thread when doing my research; it didn't sway my decision much but had good information. They can be hit or miss, I realize that. That's why I intended to meet him at the range today so I could fire some rounds through it. As fate would have it, he never showed up. Back to the search! Thanks all.
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It was a common and quite popular thing to put colt slides on Essex frames. Before everybody jumped on the parts sales brownells sold stock colt slides. They made just about every model available. As for the gun you are talking about, It appears to have been put together with all stock, no frills parts.
As for Essex quality, most of the people here are a bit hard on the manufacturer. Norm, the owner of Essex, supplied most 1911 manufacturers with frames and slides since the 1950's. They did have a short time of quality issues but that resolved after a new shop foreman entered the scene. I have known Norm for quite some time, built guns on his parts and never had an issue with them. I think most of the problem here is bias. Most of the persons here were most likely not alive when Essex had their quality issues or if they were they were not old enough to own a gun. Essex is not in business at the moment as they moved to Florida and have not completed their shop yet.
As for the pictured gun, it is easy to say the gun is too much. They only way to tell is to inspect it and shoot it. Yes you can buy a stock GI for the same money or a bit more but you still have a stock GI. In the end if the seller and purchaser are happy that is all that matters.
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Can anyone explain why someone would remove a Colt slide from the frame and install it on an Essex frame?


Folks come up with Colt slides and do a build using Essex frames. The can be awesome shooters. I have 3. They are not worth the value of the separate parts at resale but who cares.

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Thank for the positive input, unfortunately the seller failed to show up.

Fortunately, I picked up a SA Loaded Combat last night!

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Just about $0, IMO. No way I'd buy a franken-1911.
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Thank for the positive input, unfortunately the seller failed to show up.

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