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Old 02-05-2012, 22:03   #1
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Derringer anyone?

Was at a big gun show this weekend. After wading thru the mass of humanity and searching a long time for a few items and coming up mostly empty(found a 15rd mag for my 1Gen 19) did not find a holster I like as it just was not the right setting, no way to return it if I don't like it. Was also looking for a few other things, ran across a vendor showing small caliber semi autos and a derringer that you could switch barrels. It looked like such a cool gun. I did not buy on the spot, wanted to research a bit, I want the 9mm in flat black with the long bore and rosewood grips. www.cobrapistols.net
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Old 02-05-2012, 22:09   #2
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I've shot derringers in both 3567 and 44mag. I wouldn't do this again if the Victoria's Secret models offered to take me to lunch afterward. Think of it this way - each time I pulled the trigger it was like a small nuclear device went off in my hand. Not fun at all.
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Old 02-05-2012, 22:35   #3
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I wouldn't give more than $50-$100 for a Cobra Derringer. Any more than that and you're better off going with a NAA Mini-Revolver. Way better quality, and more shots before having to reload.

(*Remember: Guns like these are very difficult to reload under duress. They are ONLY for 'last ditch' situations, at best.) In a situation like that, I'd rather have five shots of a smaller caliber than two of a larger.

But then, that may just be me.

*Edited to say that I also agree with Scott3670. Shooting larger, service-size calibers out of a darringer is not fun... And you certainly wouldn't want to plink with it for any amount of time. But-- the one really good thing about them is, they can easily be hidden in places that other 'small' handguns can't. Just trying to look at both sides.
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Old 02-05-2012, 22:44   #4
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This is just a personal opinion, but I would look at a Bond arms derringer before I made any decisions.I did quite a bit of research on derringers and ended up with the Bond Arms in 357 magnum.
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Old 02-05-2012, 22:55   #5
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If you only have one or two shots..... I would highly recommend a Shotgun.

Do your research. I saw a video of a Jewelery store robbery a time ago. After he missed with his two shots..... He had to run out the back or he was dead meat. That told me all I wanted to know about Derringers
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Old 02-06-2012, 00:11   #6
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If I can hide a derringer, I can hide a P3AT. Except for the cool factor, I personally don't see much sense in derringers.
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Old 02-06-2012, 00:24   #7
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If you want a derringer, check out Bond Arms. Awesome for what it is.

If you want a carry gun for self defense, get something with higher capacity even if you have to compromise on caliber.

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Something like 22 barrel options in about 17 calibers, all interchangable.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:08   #8
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I had one in 357, shot 38s in it. That was one of the very few guns I ever sold or traded. I traded it to a guy who did the cowboy action shooting, no regrets.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:42   #9
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Don't know if is the same company now, but Titan revolvers, long time ago, where junk.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:45   #10
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If I can hide a derringer, I can hide a P3AT. Except for the cool factor, I personally don't see much sense in derringers.
Agreed. The Bonds are really big guns and clearly not the derringers of our great grandfathers.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:22   #11
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I have a Bond Arms Derringer in 45ACP. Well made gun with nice features like being able to switch calibers.

Down side is the weight, size and a derringer is a awkward gun to handle and shoot and is slow to reload.

The Bond is quality made but expensive.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:12   #12
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I have a Bond Arms Derringer in 45ACP. Well made gun with nice features like being able to switch calibers.

Down side is the weight, size and a derringer is a awkward gun to handle and shoot and is slow to reload.

The Bond is quality made but expensive.
+1 I really had a hard on for the Bond Arms derringer.

Its bigger and better built than most other derringers. I also think it's safer to shoot, handle and carry then other derringers.

I don't think it too big, considering it can safely handle shooting big bore calibers like 45acp, .45colt, .410shotshells, .357 and .44special, but with the texas/cowboy defender models you are taking a 20oz steel brick that is 1 1/2" at the grips but the length and size of most small caliber pocket guns. He is a pic comparing the cowboy defender to a Seecamp


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But you figure some pocket .45acp by Kahr, Glock and Taurus weigh around 20oz are a tad thinner and just an inch or so more in length and height. Same thing with some big bore snubbie revolvers. So do you want something that is small with limited capacity, and will be harder to shot a quick followup shot, or do you want something that is a tad bigger with more capacity that is easier to shoot. Think of the difference between carrying a 15lb bowling ball and a 15lb baby. Its a PITA when height is concentrated, instead of spread out. I'm still debating going the Bond Arms route or getting a pocket big bore gun, or snubbie.

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Old 02-06-2012, 09:26   #13
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The smallest Bond derringer (Mini model) weighs 18 oz. Most of the other Bond models weigh 20 to 22 oz.

While I admit to having a curious interest in derringers...there are much, much better options for concealed-carry SD.
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Old 02-06-2012, 13:11   #14
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30+ years ago I bought a Excam .38 spl. Derringer. You could not hit anything with it past a few feet. Recoil way heavy and the 1 follow up shot was slow. I sold it before it broke. If you want a small BUG there are much better options. Ruger LCP is about the same size and 1/2 the weight with 7 rounds compaired to 2 rounds and you can hit a target with the LCP.
There was a time in history when a Derringer made a good BUG but that time has long gone.
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Old 02-06-2012, 13:18   #15
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While I am not knocking American Derringer Corp. for shoddy products, I believe my issue was more ammunition related, Having a well made derringer is a good idea, because of the close proximity of the chamber to things that could be blown off if things went bad.

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Old 02-06-2012, 13:24   #16
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Old 02-06-2012, 18:43   #18
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Cool goof-off guns, maybe useful for golf in snake country or something.....mine actually shoots pretty well, but I wouldn't carry it for protection when i have better options.

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Berto and I see "eye to eye" on this one.......I purchased an original DA by BJT (prior to American Derringer purchasing the rights to produce it) a couple years ago, and I did so strictly for the collectibility of it. IMHO, this is the finest derringer ever made, and the final step in the evolutionary progression of the two-shot derringer. It's a great little conversation piece, but I have no intention of ccw'ing it........(might consider it as a back-up, and for a lark, but not as a primary........Never carried it for the first time yet, though!)

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I have the Bond .45LC / .410 derringer with a crossdraw holster. Use it as a car gun. Reminds me somewhat of the old pics of Hiroshima whenever I pull the trigger.
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