Springer Loaded 9mm 1911

sawgrass · 01-13-2012, 21:48

In what might turn out to be insanity I picked up a Springfield Loaded
9mm 1911. I have a slight problem with stainless guns.

I cleaned it today and hope to shoot it tomorrow. 45ACP is my favorite caliber, but this was a good price with seven mags. I've never shot a 9mm
1911. The serial number in NM so I think it was assembled in the US.
Has anyone shot one? Opinions? If nothing else it has target sights and might be a good pistol league gun.

zhix · 01-14-2012, 06:51

I have been wanting one of these in the Novak sight model for a long time, but have not been able to find an NM serial numbered frame, and I doubt I will find one on the auction sites for a reasonable price.
I will probably end up settling on a Kimber Stainless II in 9, which is actually a little more expensive.

Lew-G17 · 01-14-2012, 09:52

I have shot one and seen several used in competetive shooting matches. They are excellent pistols, and I bet you enjoy it as much or more than your 45's.

Quack · 01-14-2012, 10:41

Horrible gun...I've had mine for years, shot thousands of rounds and it's still reliable.

Quack · 01-14-2012, 11:20

this SACS 9mm is also a pain in the butt too

sawgrass · 01-14-2012, 19:55

Quack I like the magwell on your gun.

Today's trip to the range was very disappointing. The gun wouldn't shoot
twice. The empty case hung up and didn't eject. I tried three different types of 9mm all with the same results. The gun has been cleaned and properly reassembled twice. It hand cycles fine. Waiting to hear back from
the guy I bought it from. I do think I'm going to like it, once I get it shooting a magazine. If anyone has any suggestions or tips they are appreciated.

Quack · 01-14-2012, 20:40

When you say the case hung up, is it staying in the chamber? If so, check the extractor tension.

Lew-G17 · 01-15-2012, 05:51

If it is not extracting the empty case, and it functions fine when hand cycled, the recoil spring may be too strong.

sawgrass · 01-15-2012, 06:57

I should have explained it better. The empty case was catching between
the slide and the frame. I think it's called a stove pipe jam. Extracting
but not ejecting.

Gary1911A1 · 01-15-2012, 10:15

I wish Springfield would build more 1911s' in carbon Stella as it's smoother than stainless, but it's what the public wants. I consider myself lucky to have an older Springield in 9MM and a Trophy Match in carbon steel.

Shoot your Springfield some more making sure you lub it well and then call Springfield. They will take care of it.

rickrope · 01-15-2012, 10:20

I'll bet there's a .45acp recoil spring in it at 16 to 18lbs. vs a 9mm spring @ 14lbs.

bac1023 · 01-15-2012, 10:21

Congrats on your new Loaded, sawgrass.

You have a nice collection by now.

sawgrass · 01-15-2012, 19:19

Thanks Brian. It's coming along. There is just something about a 1911
a Browning Hi Power and a Beretta 92 compact type M that makes me a happy woman. Now if I can just get this new one to work...This is the first time I've bought something new or used that I've had problems with. It's
starting to piss me off a little.

MajorD · 01-15-2012, 19:51

I am pretty happy with my 70 series colt 9mm. they hasve low recoil are cheap to feed and work well. often they are magazine sensitive so that may be an issue as well. I used to have (wish I still did) have a commander 9mm that had extractor tension issues. one tweak of the extractor and it ran perfectly.

dewidmt · 01-15-2012, 20:30

I bought a Loaded Springer 9mm this past summer. I really wanted a nice 9mm 1911. I had problems with it from the first, but only with my reloads. It ran factory ammo fine. Turns out that the gun has a super tight (almost match) chamber and my reloads were a bit too large. Ran fine in my Glocks and Hi-powers, just wouldn't run in the Springfield. Now that I've made the necessary adjustments, the gun is scary accurate...and reliable!

sawgrass · 01-15-2012, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewidmt

I bought a Loaded Springer 9mm this past summer. I really wanted a nice 9mm 1911. I had problems with it from the first, but only with my reloads. It ran factory ammo fine. Turns out that the gun has a super tight (almost match) chamber and my reloads were a bit too large. Ran fine in my Glocks and Hi-powers, just wouldn't run in the Springfield. Now that I've made the necessary adjustments, the gun is scary accurate...and reliable!

This gun isn't new. I bought it from a local guy and it's been shot.
I tried factory when it didn't like the reloads. I tried different magazines.
Tonight I took the extractor out and it was gunky. I finally talked to the guy I bought it from and it probably has a 16# spring in it. I've been searching
Springfield's site looking for the spring spec of this gun but I haven't found it yet. The more I read I see numbers from 9# to 14#'s. I could order a few but
since they will be too weak for my 45's that seems kinda dumb. Maybe tomorrow
the gun a pair of side cutters and I go to the range.

That said I bought a new Springfield TRP in stainless a few weeks ago and after putting 300 rounds of factory through it, it's finally eating my reloads without any issues. It's a nice tight gun.

TexasVine · 01-16-2012, 07:58

Really like shooting mine. I have had no issues and it is very accurate.

dewidmt · 01-16-2012, 08:28

I believe that the factory spring for the 9mm's is 12-14#.

fnfalman · 01-16-2012, 09:54

Stove pipe jams are almost always a spring issue. Just buy the standard weight spring and see. If that doesn't work then you're out very little money.

sawgrass · 01-16-2012, 12:51

I took the gun to the range and trimmed the recoil spring 1/2 a coil at a time until the gun started working. I called Springfield and they said it leaves the factory with a 9# spring in it, but it's ok to go up to 12#'s.
New spring on order.

Thanks everyone for the tips.

B.Reid · 01-16-2012, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhix

I have been wanting one of these in the Novak sight model for a long time, but have not been able to find an NM serial numbered frame, and I doubt I will find one on the auction sites for a reasonable price.
I will probably end up settling on a Kimber Stainless II in 9, which is actually a little more expensive.

Take a look at the STI Trojan.

sawgrass · 01-20-2012, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by fnfalman

Stove pipe jams are almost always a spring issue. Just buy the standard weight spring and see. If that doesn't work then you're out very little money.

I replaced the recoil spring and the firing pin spring since it came in the package this am and headed off to the range. It was snowing and the actual temp was -11 degrees. My hands could only take 14 magazines worth of shooting. The gun didn't stove pipe at all and after the third magazine through the gun the slide starting locking open on the last shot.
I put a short black trigger in it. I think this is going to be a fun toy.
It looks just like the gun in posted by TexasVine except with a black trigger.

craig19 · 01-21-2012, 13:21

Glad you got the issues resolved, its a nice looking 1911.