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Old 03-03-2012, 18:14   #1
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Sig fans lend me your ears

Went to the range this morning and one of the gentlemen there let me shoot his Sig P220 Elite, WOW!! I wish I never shot it, because now I have to get one. I'm not very knowledgeable about Sig firearms and was hoping some of the more informed members on this forum can help. Is Sig still producing the same high quality firearms that their reputation suggests? At my LGS I noticed all the funky colored Sigs and it just made me wonder if Sig is allocating more money towards marketing. I want to buy a new production Sig but would appreciate any opinions on whether I am better off looking at older production models.
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Old 03-03-2012, 18:45   #2
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I have a 1995 German p228 , my shooting buddy has the new P229 E2 with enhanced grip and short reset trigger

Both of our pistols are reliable with all kinds of ammo , the grip on his is better and the SRT is nice. I would not hesitate to purchase a new sig
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Old 03-03-2012, 18:47   #3
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I have several SIGs and they are all wonderful shooters. Without any hesitation I would strongly recommend them to any shooter.
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Old 03-03-2012, 18:48   #4
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I'd get an older W. German Sig if I could, but I haven't personally had any problems with the current ones (aside from the godawful colors and such).
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Old 03-03-2012, 18:49   #5
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I have a P226 Elite that was produced back in 2010 (I think, it's the newer ones from Exeter) and it has been dead reliable with any ammo from Tul to high quality HPs.
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Old 03-03-2012, 18:50   #6
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I have three Sigs, all USA made, and all are very reliable and accurate guns.

a P226, P220, and P239.

My P220 and P226 have thousands of rounds downrange and are awesome. My P239 is my daily carry, which is shot less often, but has still proven itself very reliable.

I do recommend grease instead of oil for lube on the Sigs. It works better for me.
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Old 03-03-2012, 18:51   #7
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I have 2 non-railed Sigs from the mid 90's and they both have had thousands of rounds through them without a hiccup.
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Sigs are great guns, I'd highly recommend them old or new production
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Old 03-03-2012, 18:59   #9
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P220/45 Rules

I have a classic stamped steel slide 1998 P220 with factory nickel plated slide and controls.
Added XS 24/7 Express Big Dot sights, Hogue rubber finger grove grips,
P220 Sport 5.47" stainless steel match barrel and mags.
The gun is down right outstanding.
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Old 03-03-2012, 19:26   #10
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I use FP-10 for my 1911's, if grease is better what is the Sig recommended brand?
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Old 03-03-2012, 19:37   #11
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I use FP-10 for my 1911's, if grease is better what is the Sig recommended brand?
Cant comment for Sig, But I have used two different greases over the years, and both have worked well.

Automotive white lithium grease, and Hoppes Gun Grease have both worked well over thousands of rounds.
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Old 03-03-2012, 19:53   #12
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Cant comment for Sig, But I have used two different greases over the years, and both have worked well.

Automotive white lithium grease, and Hoppes Gun Grease have both worked well over thousands of rounds.
Which do you like best? 6 of one, half dozen of the other?
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Old 03-03-2012, 20:36   #13
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I have a recent P220 stainless Elite and for me with the SRT it is better than my P220 that was made before Sig produced guns here.
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Old 03-03-2012, 21:08   #14
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I use FP-10 for my 1911's, if grease is better what is the Sig recommended brand?
mil-com tw25b grease
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Old 03-03-2012, 21:12   #15
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I'd get an older W. German Sig if I could, but I haven't personally had any problems with the current ones (aside from the godawful colors and such).
I love the older Sigs.
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Old 03-03-2012, 22:37   #16
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What is the attraction to the West German Sigs? Better quality during the period when Germany was divided or is it just more of a cool historical factor that they are stamped West Germany? I have only seen 1 West German Sig and if i recall correctly it had a heel mag release, assume they are more collectible.
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mil-com tw25b grease
This is what Sig recommends and is the only gun grease that I use. It's good stuff!
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:28   #18
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Go for it and get a Sig! They are great guns. Don't listen to the BS about the newer American Sig's not being any good. It's a load of BS! I have quite a few Sig's including current production 226 and 220's. I haven't had one issue with any of them.

Sig's are super accurate and one of the most reliable and durable pistols ever made. You won't regret your new purchase.

I will forewarn the OP, buying a Sig is dangerous though as you won't be able to stop with just one!
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Go for it and get a Sig! They are great guns. Don't listen to the BS about the newer American Sig's not being any good. It's a load of BS! I have quite a few Sig's including current production 226 and 220's. I haven't had one issue with any of them.

Sig's are super accurate and one of the most reliable and durable pistols ever made. You won't regret your new purchase.

I will forewarn the OP, buying a Sig is dangerous though as you won't be able to stop with just one!
I agree. Have shot many AMERICAN sigs and NEVER had a problem.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:27   #20
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I currently have 10 Sig's...and have owned many dozens thru the years.
8 of them are 229's.........yea, I know but when something works, I stick with it.

ALL of my Sigs are "rail-less".....that is just a personal preference, and I have owned railed Sigs that performed flawlessly, but will say that I noticed a slip in Sig quality that started about the time the rail was incorporated.
I just traded a NIB 228 from 1989 towards a NIB Colt Diamondback from 1967.....and I feel pain, but my like new factory nickel 228 makes me feel better........yea, I'm bragging, lol.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:56   #21
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what do you see different? Is it fit and finish?
Can you tell me why people feel the all German guns are better? Which is west German correct?
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:24   #22
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Fit and finish is the big issue....QC/attention to detail.

Sig 229's are not "all German" (except for e VERY FEW 1994 made ones)........yet they came out of Exiter (1990's-05'ish) every bit as good as any all W. German made classic.

Some people love the carbon steel/folded slides....which happen to be all German/W. German...and therefore "stick" to that as being the glory days of Sig.

My 228 is 94' German made.....my 226 is W. German made.....truly great guns. They are my 2 carbon/folded slide versions.

"Most" of my 229's are mid to late 90's vintage, a few are early to mid 2000's....all 229's are stainless/milled slides......equally great guns.

I have had several 229's and 226's of newer vintage (railed), all were reliable and accurate, but things like frame rails showing wear/gouging thru the anodizing quickly, Nitron finish missing on interior of slides, and deeper wear marks/grooves in barrels/hoods bothered me (beyond the normal "smileys" Sigs are known for)..........these things seem, "TO ME", to coincide with the "railed" versions coming out.
SO, I seek out older ones.....personal choice.
I do believe the newer Sigs will serve most buyers well, and they will love them....but I will stick to what works for me.

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Old 03-04-2012, 10:55   #23
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Which do you like best? 6 of one, half dozen of the other?
IMO the white lithium grease dries up faster. It still provides adequate lube, I just had to reapply every two weeks or so.

Since my P226 is a duty gun I like the Hoppes because I dont have to worry about reapplying except every 4 weeks or so.
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This is what Sig recommends and is the only gun grease that I use. It's good stuff!
Sig sends "or at least did" a small packet of tw25b from the factory and recommends it for their firearms. I have used that and at one time needed to fall back on my tetra grease which was fine but I ordered the tw25b again and now use it exclusively on the sig!

Great guns, great trigger and I have a USA made P229 enhanced elite and has fed everything I put in it and has been very very accurate! Get the new P220 with the E2 grips on it! just saw one and felt great in the hand!
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I picked up a Sig P229 Elite Dark a couple months ago and have been very pleased with it. It is a damn fine shooter, reliable, and accurate as hell. Sig has recently come out with some pistols that a pimp in Detroit would question carrying sad to say.

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