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Old 01-24-2012, 17:42   #1
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Ranch Gun

20 some years ago when I wanted a deer rifle, I found a used 760 in .308 in the newspaper, and had me a gun!

Today there's AK's, AR's, SBR's, Black Rifles, etc. Ad infinriflum. I've been thinking I'd like a woods-worthy semi a bit lighter than my .308, maybe like a Ruger ranch gun in .223. But when I look at the various rifle forums haven't a clue where to look.

Can anyone give me a crash course on popular contemporary Long guns, particularly pointing me to discussions on the Ruger Ranch Rifle?
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Old 01-24-2012, 17:45   #2
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Old 01-24-2012, 17:54   #3
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If I had a ranch I would keep a 45/70 for a ranch gun most likely a single shot Sharps clone, that's my dream gun
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Old 01-24-2012, 17:58   #4
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For me, an AR pistol with an EOTech fits the bill. It will do the job on what I need, is easy in/out of the vehicle, and has 30 rounds on tap.
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Old 01-24-2012, 18:01   #5
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Well I own one and live there, My #1 rifle is a Marlin bolt action 22mag, synthetic stock and just a tool here, my next rifle would by my Rock River AR15, they both get lots of use, Glock 32 always goes with me. What I thought I would use changed as soon as I got involved in what works and what is impractical.

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Old 01-24-2012, 18:02   #6
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To me the perfect ranch gun would be an SKS. I would buy a closet full of them for all my ranch hands and hand them out when rustlers or wolves were up to no good. I would also make my ranch hands refer to me as Mr. Cartwright but thats another thread/topic/issue.



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Old 01-24-2012, 18:08   #7
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I personally carry a shotgun or my bolt action .270 on the farm and at the hunting camp.

You say ranch gun, but what threat/pests are you concerned about having to deal with?

A scoped bolt action .243 or .270 is a darn handy little gun to have. It will kill a deer if the opportunity arises or kill a coyote lurking around the chicken house even at long range.

If worried about meth heads sneaking on your property for a cook (dont laugh, its a big concern in some areas) then I would lean toward a AR15 or Mini14 in .223 with a handgun on your person also. If the price is right the mini14 is a great deal, trouble is for the price I often see on them I would rather pay the extra $75 and get a AR.

I also think a pump shotgun with a variety of shells on hand is a pretty versatile gun. I'd keep Federal LE flite-control in the tube with some slugs and #4 shot on hand as well. The Federal load patterns well in my Mossberg and will still get 3-5 pellets on target at 40-50yds.

Heck if your truck is nearby it wouldn't be a big deal to have a pistol on your person, a AR, and shotgun in the truck.
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Old 01-24-2012, 18:10   #8
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I don't own a ranch. But for 20 years I've thoroughly enjoyed using a M-1 Garand for deer hunting, varmint control, etc. IT is exceedingly effective in the extreme. I've never had a deer need a second shot. As to various sorts of feral dogs, etc., they get a dose of M-2 ball... works every time. If i were to ever own or live on a ranch, I think a M-1 Garand loaded with M-2 ball would handle just about any situation that might arise. JMHO. Sincerely. Brucev.
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Old 01-24-2012, 18:11   #9
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Come on guys, get with the times.

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I don't own a ranch. But for 20 years I've thoroughly enjoyed using a M-1 Garand for deer hunting, varmint control, etc. IT is exceedingly effective in the extreme. I've never had a deer need a second shot. As to various sorts of feral dogs, etc., they get a dose of M-2 ball... works every time. If i were to ever own or live on a ranch, I think a M-1 Garand loaded with M-2 ball would handle just about any situation that might arise. JMHO. Sincerely. Brucev.
Very nice choice. I have also seen alot of M1 carbines in the back window of the farm trucks.
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Old 01-24-2012, 18:13   #11
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My understanding of the idea of the ranch carbine/rifle is that it's a super-utility rifle. Something that will take care of the coyotes, fox, occasional deer and still will be capable of providing HD firepower when needed. One rifle for all the task, so it must be simple and reliable as the weather changes with all the seasons. Then we have a personal preference factor - for me - anything black, tactical is just unappealing to say at least. For You it may be the other way around. Your carbine must be light, points naturally and have proven record of working under dusty conditions. I would say that the calibers (for the semi-auto) that fit your bill would be:
.223 (Ruger Mini 14)
30 Carbine (M1 Carbine)
7.62x39 (Ruger Mini 30 or SKS)
Take your time, look around, there is lot to learn about the ballistics, ergonomics and pointability of those guns. Good luck and keep us updated, please.
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Old 01-24-2012, 18:24   #12
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I'd get an AR15 in 6.8 SPC.
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My new "love" is a Remington Model 5 in .22 mag, with a Simmons .22mag scope 3-9X30.
I zeroed it last week, and it is quite awesome!
But ranch rifle? I guess I need to take my Mini-14 to the range and try it out. Have it in a synthetic folding stock and haven't ever fired it. Looks like big fun!
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Thanks for all the quick input, though some of it was baffling. When I said "no clue", that means what the heck is EOTech, SKS, AR, AK, ETC.?

Yeah, looking for something versatile, light, maneuverable, good for 2 legged & 4 legged critters. We have coyote, deer, all kinds of paper, plastic and tin targets, and a maximum security correctional institution just a few miles away. (not so worried about those INSIDE, as what their visitors might do in their free time)

At one point I was thinking a Remington semi .243 might be the ticket, but I'm leaning more toward the Ruger at this point. Which of the various rifle forums on GT might include more discussion and comparisons of these platforms?
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Old 01-24-2012, 18:50   #15
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If I had a ranch I would keep a 45/70 for a ranch gun most likely a single shot Sharps clone, that's my dream gun
You are so old school!
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Old 01-24-2012, 18:55   #16
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Thanks for all the quick input, though some of it was baffling. When I said "no clue", that means what the heck is EOTech, SKS, AR, AK, ETC.?

Yeah, looking for something versatile, light, maneuverable, good for 2 legged & 4 legged critters. We have coyote, deer, all kinds of paper, plastic and tin targets, and a maximum security correctional institution just a few miles away. (not so worried about those INSIDE, as what their visitors might do in their free time)

At one point I was thinking a Remington semi .243 might be the ticket, but I'm leaning more toward the Ruger at this point. Which of the various rifle forums on GT might include more discussion and comparisons of these platforms?
The Ruger Mini-30 might be more to your liking, but the Mini-14 now has a very nice reputation.
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Where my ranch is located, the gun of choice for many years has been the .30-30. It does the job. I've used everything from a .30-30 to a nice .308 bolt gun, but most of the stuff I shoot is moving and in the 30-100 yard range.
The older I get, the more I like the ease and speed of a dot. One of the big things for me is the ability to get in and out of my vehicle without destroying the interior with the rifle, which I have done. I drive nice vehicles; so, I 'd rather keep them that way.
I live in a different state, so the AR pistol facilitates all of my needs in 1 weapon without having SBR issues, and I can keep it concealed and loaded.
We'll see how long it takes for the "it's useless" and "are you engaged in drive by shootings" comments.
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Thanks for all the quick input, though some of it was baffling. When I said "no clue", that means what the heck is EOTech, SKS, AR, AK, ETC.?

Yeah, looking for something versatile, light, maneuverable, good for 2 legged & 4 legged critters. We have coyote, deer, all kinds of paper, plastic and tin targets, and a maximum security correctional institution just a few miles away. (not so worried about those INSIDE, as what their visitors might do in their free time)

At one point I was thinking a Remington semi .243 might be the ticket, but I'm leaning more toward the Ruger at this point. Which of the various rifle forums on GT might include more discussion and comparisons of these platforms?
EoTEch - A red dot sight. http://www.eotech-inc.com/

AR - Short for AR15, semi auto version of the M16. Now available in many calibers.General Firearms Forum

AK - Short for AK47, the Kalashnikov. 7.62x39 medium velocity round. Now also available in the AK-74 5.45x39
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SKS is the precursor to the AK. Machined receiver, same 7.62x39 round, wood stock, no pistol grip, generally has a fixed magazine. General Firearms Forum

I think something like my AR15 would make a great ranch rifle.
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To work around a ranch and light and handy....

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=270975014

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=270485909

On the upper and nicer end...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=270319680

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=270503896
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The most popular Mini14 forum around...

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/
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