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Old 01-17-2012, 21:38   #1
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Feds stepping up excessive force cases

Feds stepping up excessive force cases
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Old 01-18-2012, 15:34   #2
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I'd like to quote Martha, if it's not a violation of the TOS, SOPA, or PIPA, "It's a good thing!"
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:12   #3
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I'd like to quote Martha, if it's not a violation of the TOS, SOPA, or PIPA, "It's a good thing!"
What does that mean?
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Old 01-19-2012, 17:24   #4
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"There is political power in putting cellphone video up on YouTube," Browne-Marshall said. "There's actual visual evidence. It can't be ignored by anybody."


this is not a wholly true statement.

plenty of video of police acting inappropriately has been ignored, questioned, rationalized and argued by those with an incontrovertible pro-police bias on this site, including the OP.
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Old 01-19-2012, 18:34   #5
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"There is political power in putting cellphone video up on YouTube," Browne-Marshall said. "There's actual visual evidence. It can't be ignored by anybody."


this is not a wholly true statement.

plenty of video of police acting inappropriately has been ignored, questioned, rationalized and argued by those with an incontrovertible pro-police bias on this site, including the OP.
Ignored? No.
Questioned? Yes
Rationalized? Not in the way you mean.
Argued? Yes.
An incontrovertible pro-police bias on this site? What part of Eric's statement...
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...do you not understand. Don't like the pro-law enforcement attitude here, go somewhere else.
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Old 01-20-2012, 19:20   #6
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What does that mean?
It's a good thing that the Feds are doing these types of investigations.
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Old 01-20-2012, 19:45   #7
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It's a good thing that the Feds are doing these types of investigations.
Yes, it is.
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Quoted from the article:

"There is no question that there is a problem," said Sam Walker, emeritus professor of criminal justice at the University of Nebraska, Omaha, and the author of more than a dozen books on police accountability, civil rights and police oversight.

It had to be the school that I received my master's degree, and my wife is finishing hers...
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Russ P interesting statement from a moderator.
Definition of MODERATOR

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: one who arbitrates : mediator

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: one who presides over an assembly, meeting, or discussion: as a : the presiding officer of a Presbyterian governing body b : the nonpartisan presiding officer of a town meeting c : the chairman of a discussion group

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: a substance (as graphite) used for slowing neutrons in a nuclear reactor

mod·er·a·tor·ship noun
I understand Eric and his comments and I can accept your house your rules.
My thought is you should change your title from Moderator to Enforcement.
Look at my profile look at my posts and if I am the type person you do not want on this site just send an E-Mail to manolito@frontiernet.net
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You're fine, Bill.

I will suggest you contact Eric directly instead of posting on the open forum.
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"treat them respectfully" =/= glossing over, forgetting about, and making excuses for illegal acts and egregious abuses of power.
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Here's a question for you, M_B, related to the original topic.

Do you believe the government should stay out of a person's life completely until, as an example, that person violates the rights of another?
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Yes, it is.
In general, yes. With regards to *this* AG in *this* administration---you know, the guys who gave the pass to the Black Panthers, who approved Fast & Furious, who're taking the 5th rather than testify about Brian Terry's murder---well, I'll reserve judgement until some facts are in.
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In general, yes. With regards to *this* AG in *this* administration---you know, the guys who gave the pass to the Black Panthers, who approved Fast & Furious, who're taking the 5th rather than testify about Brian Terry's murder---well, I'll reserve judgement until some facts are in.
Sam, Gotta say I agree. I am a retired LEO and some of what I am seeing these days scares me. The rules do not apply equally as they once did. This administration has given free passes to criminals BECAUSE of their race AND refuses to co-operate with Congressional Committees when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Integrity seems to be NON-existent to this crowd. Something like people who live in glass houses.....
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:22   #15
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"treat them respectfully" =/= glossing over, forgetting about, and making excuses for illegal acts and egregious abuses of power.
True. But what's that got to do with your posting pattern?
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In general, yes. With regards to *this* AG in *this* administration---you know, the guys who gave the pass to the Black Panthers, who approved Fast & Furious, who're taking the 5th rather than testify about Brian Terry's murder---well, I'll reserve judgement until some facts are in.
Yes, it is interesting that those investigating law enforcement agencies are themselves under investigation for egregious behavior.
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I remember lapd sergeant stacey koon said on the stand during the first rodney king trial that sometimes police work is a dirty job.
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True. But what's that got to do with your posting pattern?
if you really want to know, PM me.
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Here's a question for you, M_B, related to the original topic.

Do you believe the government should stay out of a person's life completely until, as an example, that person violates the rights of another?

no, I'm not on the wacko end of the libertarian spectrum.
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"There is political power in putting cellphone video up on YouTube," Browne-Marshall said. "There's actual visual evidence. It can't be ignored by anybody."


this is not a wholly true statement.

plenty of video of police acting inappropriately has been ignored, questioned, rationalized and argued by those with an incontrovertible pro-police bias on this site, including the OP.
How much of this "inappropriate video" only showed the section of video the person holding the phone wanted the viewer to see? While there are a few out there that may depict a majority of the story, there are far more that only show one side of it. Hence why many officers are cleared of wrongdoing when the whole story comes out in the courtroom. It's sad that a majority of the viewing public (which might include you) forms their opinion on 20 seconds of video edited by the person who has something to lose before posting it on youtube or emailing it to the local media.

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