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Old 02-14-2012, 05:39   #1
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Moving to NJ

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My wife's Nephew is being transfered to NJ for his job.
When he cked into getting a carry permit there he was told he could not carry HP's.

He carries a g23 and he will now carry 180 gr FMJ/FN do any of you carry that instead of HP'S?
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:46   #2
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Hi

My wife's Nephew is being transfered to NJ for his job.
When he cked into getting a carry permit there he was told he could not carry HP's.

He carries a g23 and he will now carry 180 gr FMJ/FN do any of you carry that instead of HP'S?

Unless you are a cop or are extremely well connected you will not get a carry permit in NJ. No out of state carry permit is recognized in NJ.

And yes, if by some luck he gets a permit, carrying hollow points are a no-no. But you can use hollow points in your home for self-defense.

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Old 02-14-2012, 05:49   #3
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He has my sympathy. See http://www.federalpremium.com/promot...nd=5&year=2011
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:50   #4
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it would suck to live in NJ and NY

BG carry all the time but the law abiding citizen cant
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:53   #5
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BG carry all the time but the law abiding citizen cant
Bingo!!!! We have a winner.

To bad the law makers can't see this.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:53   #6
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Hi

My wife's Nephew is being transfered to NJ for his job.
When he cked into getting a carry permit there he was told he could not carry HP's.

He carries a g23 and he will now carry 180 gr FMJ/FN do any of you carry that instead of HP'S?
I believe it's a crime to carry HPs in New Jersery. And it's hard to get a carry permit too.
But you do what you have to do and if his job takes him there I guess he has to go.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:00   #7
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I believe it's a crime to carry HPs in New Jersery. And it's hard to get a carry permit too.
But you do what you have to do and if his job takes him there I guess he has to go.
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I live in NJ and know the laws pretty well.

It is not illegal to own hollow points. They can be used for range and in your house for self defense. However, it is illegal to carry hollow points -- if you can get a carry permit. It is also illegal to use hollow points in a crime.

LEO's carry hollow points when active, once retired, they are no longer allowed to carry hollow points.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:10   #8
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It is also illegal to use hollow points in a crime.
Wow get out!
It sounds funny to say that. I can't believe that someone made that law.Only in New jerersy.
Did you know you can get a speeding ticket at a drag strip with a racer car in NJ?
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:11   #9
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If he has any magazines over 15 round capacity he can't take them to NJ, I don't know much more than that about NJ's crazy laws.

Oh yeah, and something about seagulls.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:19   #10
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If he has any magazines over 15 round capacity he can't take them to NJ, I don't know much more than that about NJ's crazy laws.

Correct. Magazines are limited to 15rds (pistols & rifles).

Autoloading shotguns are limited to 6 rds, no pistol grip. Pump shotguns max 15rds, pistol grip is ok.

No flash hiders, no threaded barrels, no colapsable stocks, no bayonet lugs. A colapsable stock must be pinned. A muzzle brake/compensator must be pinned/welded permanent. Higher capacity magazines can be pinned/welded to 15 and be compliant (must be permanent).

No suppressors, no automatic weapons.

You do not need to register your guns with NJ when you move here. But they do have to be NJ compliant.

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Old 02-14-2012, 06:22   #11
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EFMJ is a gray area and can be problematic as well. The law is against "dum-dum" bullets (you can't make this up), which is typically defined as any bullet designed to expand.

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(1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet
To the OP, where in NJ is the job. If it's close enough to the border, consider PA for residency.

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Old 02-14-2012, 06:22   #12
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It is also against the law in NJ to pump your own gas.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:25   #13
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I'm a LEO in MD. I called a NJ State Police Barrack to ask about out of state LEO carry. The trooper advised me that it did not matter whether one was out of state LEO or not, if I was caught with HP rounds, even though that is my duty ammo, I would go to jail, no questions asked. I feel terrible for the citizens of that state that care for their 2A right. I would not step foot in NJ for ANY reason. Maryland is not much better for citizens, but we are at least out of state LEO friendly, per HR 218.

I feel sorry for your wife's nephew. Good luck to him.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:26   #14
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EFMJ is a gray area and can be problematic as well. The law is against "dum-dum" bullets (you can't make this up), which is typically defined as any bullet designed to expand.



To the OP, where in NJ is the job. If it's close enough to the border, consider PA for residency.

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Old 02-14-2012, 06:29   #15
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I was told once by a guy from new jersey ........that if the USA was a human body, new jersey would be the arm pit. Just sayin
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:30   #16
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This is what I'd carry:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...j605oc4jfglf11
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:32   #17
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Also certain firearms and outlawed by name and brand. I know for sure M1 Carbines are outlawed. Yo can order one straight from the Federal Government (CMP) but they're outlawed in NJ.

CCW Permits in NJ are very hard to get. Limited to the politically connected or those that are LEOs. I know that even after LEOs retired before LEOSA CCW permits for retired cops was a pain in the ass to get.

JHP are outlawed for CCW use except for active LEOs and other government agents. Federal's EFMJ is the de facto CCW choice for CCW/LEOSA carry in NJ. I wonder if Cor-bon Glaser Pow'Rball or Glaser Safety Slug is legal for carry.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:38   #18
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My co-workers and I were just discussing yesterday how much money it would take for me to move to one of the socialist states up North. I would NEVER EVER move to NJ. Period.

No job is worth losing my personal liberties.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:39   #19
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It is also against the law in NJ to pump your own gas.
Also if I remember it's illegal to make "left" turns in NJ. I think everything there is jug-handle turns. Haven't been to NJ in a long while and I'm glad it's been a long while. My family can come down and visit me in Miami. I won't go up to Union.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:43   #20
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I was told once by a guy from new jersey ........that if the USA was a human body, new jersey would be the arm pit. Just sayin
Actually, I think the particular body part is a little lower and behind
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:43   #21
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take her to New Jersey!
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:44   #22
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Also if I remember it's illegal to make "left" turns in NJ. I think everything there is jug-handle turns. Haven't been to NJ in a long while and I'm glad it's been a long while. My family can come down and visit me in Miami. I won't go up to Union.

Hahaha. It's almost illegal. There are some places you can make a left.

And yes the M1 Carbine is banned by name. But mostly because of the bayonet lug.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:03   #23
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I just escaped that crap state and moved to OK about 7 months ago. I have family and friends in law enforcement from basic LEO's to US Marshall's and you can forget any right you may think when you live in that state. Good luck.

BTW if you own a gun you must also go to your local PD and have it registered to that house. Not doing so is breaking the law.
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BTW if you own a gun you must also go to your local PD and have it registered to that house. Not doing so is breaking the law.

This is incorrect. If you move to NJ with guns you legally own, you are not required to register them with your local PD or the State. However, they must be made NJ compliant e.g. max 15rd mags, etc.

The less NJ knows, the better for you.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:09   #25
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California sounds great after reading about this hell-hole! NJ is officially #50 on my list of states to live, Mass. is #49. I'd live in NH or Vermont if I had to live in the N.E. which thank God I don't! My condolences to you few sane folks who must put up with it. You could always move and try starting that business you always thought you'd do well with, I would whether I had family (extended) there or not.
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