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Old 02-14-2012, 09:16   #1
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Would you be afraid to carry this?

All stainless with polished flats WC CQB. Would this gun scratch easily? Thanks
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:22   #2
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Depends what kind of holster your carrying it in, and your environment. If you work around dirt or sand, it will indeed scratch. The tight fit in kydex is bound to cause minute particles to scratch the polished surfaces. If you stick with leather, with some kind of soft lining, or something like a remora, your better off.


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Old 02-14-2012, 09:41   #3
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Will it scratch easily? Yes
Would I be afraid to carry it? No
Stainless is easy to refinish.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:46   #4
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+1, he is right ^^


But I'd never carry a shiny gun as a defensive weapon. Period.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:16   #5
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I would carry it, then use it to blow my brains out when I scratched it.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:59   #6
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But I'd never carry a shiny gun as a defensive weapon. Period.
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Pistols with a shiny finish are not meant for carry, IMHO. Not because of scratches, but because the reflective finish can give away your position.



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Old 02-14-2012, 12:08   #7
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Pistols with a shiny finish are not meant for carry, IMHO. Not because of scratches, but because the reflective finish can give away your position.
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Tell that to my old Dept. when we all carried Stainless SW K frame revolvers before switching over to Glocks. It would have made sense to go blue though, although it never turned out to be an issue in over 20 years a fairly large city. The guns sure did look nice and intimidating when we drew down on the BG. Not so much when the Glocks first hit the street.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:24   #8
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I'm not real big on stainless guns (except revolvers, for some reason), but yeah, I'd carry it.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:25   #9
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Pistols with a shiny finish are not meant for carry, IMHO. Not because of scratches, but because the reflective finish can give away your position.



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yeah, because muzzle flash or badges wont do that.
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While I take very good care of my firearms, every handgun that I've carried for a reasonable amount of time eventually showed 'wear and tear' from its service.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:46   #11
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Shiny pistols often mean heavy. Dark colored pistols are usually easier to conceal. Yes, muzzle flash can be seen, but that's only IF you have to fire.

Who was it that said, "Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickle plated sissy pistol." LOL



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Old 02-14-2012, 12:48   #12
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Pistols with a shiny finish are not meant for carry, IMHO. Not because of scratches, but because the reflective finish can give away your position.



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Everything I have ever read on the use of a defensive handgun say it not very Likely to happen at much more than 10 yards so you position will more than likely be obvious to the bad guy shinny gun or not.

If the engagement distance is longer than that I would be trying even harder to exit the situation or finding myself a real gun( shotgun or a rifle) instead of a handgun.

To the op carry it, guns that get carried and scratched are cool, gives them character.


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Shiny pistols often mean heavy. Dark colored pistols are usually easier to conceal. Yes, muzzle flash can be seen, but that's only IF you have to fire.

Who was it that said, "Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickle plated sissy pistol." LOL



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now, the sissy nickle plated gun has some disadvantages if youre a sniper or in the military or conducting some sort of covert action....but thats not what you were talking about was it?
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:53   #14
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I recall a story penned by Evan Marshall (remember him?) in an old old SWAT or similar magazine in which he spoke of a body guard (I think) who carried a big bright nickel gun. the theory being that when he pulled it, the bad guy WOULD see it. An intimidation thing I suppose.

I have never been big on stainless or nickel guns. Over the years I did own a S&W 681 and 686 and a 642. I also had a Kimber Stainless II that I really liked the finish on. There is something I like about the appearance of that stainless vs others. Now I am itching to get another.

On topic.....if getting it scratched up will bother you, then don't carry it. If scratches don't carry it. Personally, scratches don't bother me on carry guns. I have one or two dafe queens, but anything else?????? Scratches happen.
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an actor, not a cop.

now, the sissy nickle plated gun has some disadvantages if youre a sniper or in the military or conducting some sort of covert action....but thats not what you were talking about was it?
LOL, yes...an actor, a damn good one!

And no...no covert black ops here...just talking average CCW.



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I'll say this...the shiny effect combined with a laser can be VERY intimidating to most.



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Bug, seriously, you need to find some fresher research material and/or more current folks to listen to.

They are quoting data that is at least 40 years old.


Have you ever read this? My Gunfight . . ? It is my opinion that it really sheds some light on the benefits of making assumptions beyond: "Anything can happen at any time. Work hard to be prepared for it if you want to stand a realistic chance of prevailing."

Personally there are two reasons I'd never carry a shiny weapon as a defensive arm:

1) Shiny draws attention.
I can easily imagine any number of scenarios where I may find it prudent to get my weapon into my hand prior to actually being ready to fire it. In none of those scenarios does it seem to me to be a good idea to increase the possibility the bad guy will realize I am doing that.

2) Shiny reflects light.
I can't foresee where I will need my weapon. That means, among other things, that I may need to use it in the bright sunlight or even inside where there may be bright lighting. In neither of those situations does it seem to me like having a shiny pistol is anything other than potentially detrimental.


As for muzzle flash. Lots has happened before anyone can see that. In fact the muzzle flash is - if I did my part - the end of the scenario. In that context, muzzle flash is irrelevant in terms of "staying low profile".

Muzzle flash does present a real problem shooting in the dark or low light. And I have taken steps to deal with that, but it is a subject for another speech.


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Everything I have ever read on the use of a defensive handgun say it not very Likely to happen at much more than 10 yards so you position will more than likely be obvious to the bad guy shinny gun or not.

If the engagement distance is longer than that I would be trying even harder to exit the situation or finding myself a real gun( shotgun or a rifle) instead of a handgun.

To the op carry it, guns that get carried and scratched are cool, gives them character.


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Old 02-14-2012, 13:42   #18
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Pistols with a shiny finish are not meant for carry, IMHO. Not because of scratches, but because the reflective finish can give away your position.



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give away my position ? the BAMB, BAMB, will do it too
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Old 02-14-2012, 13:43   #19
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Thanks for helping me present my point, Rumbler.

shinny = range only
dark = everything



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give away my position ? the BAMB, BAMB, will do it too
I did say, "that's only IF you have to fire." And you won't hear anything after the first "BAMB", if I have the proper equipment/firearm.

So if we are out deep in the woods and I discharge one round....are you saying you can tell exactly where that round came from without seeing the flash? Not with one round, but perhaps with two+. IMHO.



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