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Old 04-08-2012, 16:41   #351
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Today I had my friend come by who I sold my previous G26 to. I wanted a known gun that had no problems shooting any kind of 9mm rounds. This gun has probably 1000 rds of all sorts of ammo and did not exhibit erratic ejections problems.
I took my slide and put it on his lower half that has the ejector in it. I fired 40 rds through it and had my friend watch the ejected casings. All of them went to the right of me and none to the rear or straight up.
I then switched back to my lower and slide and had my friend watch the casings for me. Well over half either went straight up in the air or up and over my head. With a couple hitting me on the brim of my cap. Also there is a pattern of brass marking the slide just below the ejection port. Clearly a problem. I will call Glock tomorrow and ask for a warranty claim. I am not going to clean the gun so they can see the markings on the slide from the brass casings.
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Old 04-08-2012, 16:49   #352
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i have the same brass markings at the exactly same spots, but no erratic ejection prob with my gen. 3 G19.

are the brass markings a problem indicator anyway, or quite normal as long as someone encounters NO erratic ejection?
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i have the same brass markings at the exactly same spots, but no erratic ejection prob with my gen. 3 G19.

are the brass markings a problem indicator anyway, or quite normal as long as someone encounters NO erratic ejection?
I don't think the casings should be hitting the slide when things are right.
My buddy's son was there today also with a well broken in G22 .40 cal. His gun was shooting the brass 4' clear of the gun. His rounds obviously were not contacting the slide.
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okay, gonna watch that closer
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Old 04-09-2012, 17:05   #355
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Update

Spoke with Glock today. Shipping label has been printed and I am sending the G26 back tomorrow. Hope it gets fixed the first time. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:57   #356
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I've tried the "fix" with OK results, my G26 tossed two out of the last 20 rounds "erratically", one high and left the other over my head. My 19 worked perfectly. Found a few rounds in a nice pile about 4' to the right.

Just got an older 1 pin G17, it has the non LCI extractor hook. Looked to me like the older internals were "nicer", at least they were all parkerized. I took a chance and ordered two of the non LCI hooks.

The new "old" extractors arrived today and dropped right into the slide. My only concern is that the late Gen 3 slide has an angle cut next to the breech not present on the older guns. So the hook stands a little proud, but still parallel with the barrel, so everything closes up nicely.

I ran some dummy shells through both pistols, everything ran fine ... but only shooting will tell the tale. I will fire both pistols Thursday, and report back.

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Old 04-09-2012, 21:02   #357
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I did the "Fix" and it seems to be working very well...I want to shoot it some more just to be sure...so far they go to the right about 3-4 o'clock...I did it to my G19 only...
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Old 04-10-2012, 00:17   #358
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The new "old" extractors arrived today and dropped right into the slide. My only concern is that the late Gen 3 slide has an angle cut next to the breech not present on the older guns. So the hook stands a little proud, but still parallel with the barrel, so everything closes up nicely.
It should work. But you need to use a non-LCI spring loaded bearing with that extractor. Your Gen1 G17 should have a non-LCI spring loaded bearing in it.
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Old 04-10-2012, 14:31   #359
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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the extractor. I was like WTF? For real?
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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the ejector. I was like WTF? For real?
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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the extractor. I was like WTF? For real?
Did they give you any details like with what tool to use/works best or how long/much to polish, where on the extractor to polish, is there a youtube video.








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Old 04-10-2012, 15:00   #362
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That's what I did...Works great..!
Try it...I polished the top and bottom and the little Pin(nub)
Also cleaned up the claw a bit too...
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Did they give you any details like with what tool to use/works best or how long/much to polish, where on the extractor to polish, is there a youtube video.
They just said the sides of it. I was thinking in my head you gotta be ****ing kidding me. I'm a glock armorer and they weren't willing to send me a new extractor either. I was like really?

I asked about the "dip-less" design and they said there was no new design and the extractor I have dip or not was the latest and greatest.

I already replaced the ejector to the newer version myself.

They said check the recoil spring (I said its in spec). Then they just kept saying polish the extractor sides. If I keep having a problem then send it in.

I don't want to because I can replace any part just as east as they can. It a glock, anyone with internet and youtube can do what I paid 195 bucks for.
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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the extractor. I was like WTF? For real?
Is Glock Inc. reading "Glock Talk"!

It's good to know that we are correcting the ejection problems in an "approved" manner.
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It should work. But you need to use a non-LCI spring loaded bearing with that extractor. Your Gen1 G17 should have a non-LCI spring loaded bearing in it.
I did check the extractor plunger out and it mike'd the same as the one on my old 1 pin G17. The only difference I noted was that the little plastic "teat" on that bears on the slide cover is a bit longer on the early pistol. Is that the "bearing" of which you speak?

If so where can you purchase the older "little plastic nub"?
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I did check the extractor plunger out and it mike'd the same as the one on my old 1 pin G17. The only difference I noted was that the little plastic "teat" on that bears on the slide cover is a bit longer on the early pistol. Is that the "bearing" of which you speak?

If so where can you purchase the older "little plastic nub"?
Yes the plastic piece is the bearing. The ones for the non lci are white and bigger. You can still purchase them through a lot of places since glock still makes them and they are an available part.
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Old 04-10-2012, 16:14   #367
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I polished up my extractor. I went 1911 on its ass. I just used some flitz and my dremmel and did a light polish to all the wear areas. top, bottom, and that place by the hook. Too all of a few mins to get everything shined up and looking nice. Lets just see what a difference it might make. Mine actually had a pretty deep scrape on the top of it. I didn't go as deep as that but I did polish it up and made sure that didn't have any sharp edges sticking up.
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aren't the white ones the ones for ther .40S&W?

i got LCI and non LCI bearings and for the 9mm they both are black.

got a gen 3. G17 mint condition, production date 04/2004 last weekend and from the first mag it had erratic ejection, every 10-15rds brass to the head or right shoulder (shootingh right handed), installed the new 30274 nistead of the old factory installed 336, problem solved, no issues anymore!
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aren't the white ones the ones for ther .40S&W?

i got LCI and non LCI bearings and for the 9mm they both are black.

got a gen 3. G17 mint condition, production date 04/2004 last weekend and from the first mag it had erratic ejection, every 10-15rds brass to the head or right shoulder (shootingh right handed), installed the new 30274 nistead of the old factory installed 336, problem solved, no issues anymore!
The little plastic "bearings" in my 9mm pistols is black, on my .40 the plastic is white.
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aren't the white ones the ones for ther .40S&W?

i got LCI and non LCI bearings and for the 9mm they both are black.

got a gen 3. G17 mint condition, production date 04/2004 last weekend and from the first mag it had erratic ejection, every 10-15rds brass to the head or right shoulder (shootingh right handed), installed the new 30274 nistead of the old factory installed 336, problem solved, no issues anymore!
White for .40, Black for 9mm & Olive Drab for .45.

High shoulder for non-LCI extractors, low shoulder for LCI.
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thanks ;-)

has someone a direct comparison pic of a non-LCI bearing and a LCI bearing (wanna see the difference in the shoulder)?

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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the extractor. I was like WTF? For real?
At one point they told someone to try a LWD extractor.
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I called Glock this morning and they are sending me a shipping label to send the gun back in to them.

No hesitation on their part.

Funny thing though is they suggested I try a LWD extractor. I told them I did and he said I should just send it back in.
153, the spring loaded bearing you need to use with a non-LCI 9mm extractor is the 9mm non-LCI spring loaded bearing, the one on the left in the picture below. It's still sold by multiple online retailers. 9mm SLB's are black, 40/357/45GAP are white, 10mm/45ACP are Olive Drab green.
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thanks for the pic, voyager
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This is all very interesting, and I am sure learning alot about the "ins and outs' of my Glock pistols, so pardon my questions/observations ...

The difference between the plastic bearings is length, the older bearing being longer, would in theory put a bit more pressure on the extractor.

Was this change made to allow the new hook to move more easily, and prehaps to function better? Both styles of extractor where they engage the plunger - appear identical. So why not run the shorter bearing with the older hook? I would think the pistol would work fine, since it has the better finished non-LCI hook and the easy function of the shorter bearing?

Or is the theory that less tension on the extractor might result in "erratic" ejection, hence the real issue lies not with the extractor hook itself, but the shortened bearing?

PS: I have ordered the old style bearing...
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I don't know why the non-LCI extractors have a SLB which gives more spring tension. I have heard of a few people who ordered the wrong replacement extractors, they used 90 degree non-LCI extractors and they used them with the LCI spring loaded bearings that were already in the guns. They shot a few rounds and the extractor fell out of the slide.

From what I can see, if the extractor is closed and flush with the outside side of the slide, the part of the extractor that the extractor depressor plunger pushes against is slightly further forward toward the muzzle on a non-LCI extractor.

Edit: I just swung the LCI and non-LCI extractors in each of my guns with my finger and the non-LCI feels slightly heavier but it's barely detectable.
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