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Old 04-10-2012, 15:00   #361
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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the extractor. I was like WTF? For real?
Did they give you any details like with what tool to use/works best or how long/much to polish, where on the extractor to polish, is there a youtube video.








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Old 04-10-2012, 15:00   #362
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That's what I did...Works great..!
Try it...I polished the top and bottom and the little Pin(nub)
Also cleaned up the claw a bit too...
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Old 04-10-2012, 15:20   #363
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Did they give you any details like with what tool to use/works best or how long/much to polish, where on the extractor to polish, is there a youtube video.
They just said the sides of it. I was thinking in my head you gotta be ****ing kidding me. I'm a glock armorer and they weren't willing to send me a new extractor either. I was like really?

I asked about the "dip-less" design and they said there was no new design and the extractor I have dip or not was the latest and greatest.

I already replaced the ejector to the newer version myself.

They said check the recoil spring (I said its in spec). Then they just kept saying polish the extractor sides. If I keep having a problem then send it in.

I don't want to because I can replace any part just as east as they can. It a glock, anyone with internet and youtube can do what I paid 195 bucks for.
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Old 04-10-2012, 15:24   #364
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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the extractor. I was like WTF? For real?
Is Glock Inc. reading "Glock Talk"!

It's good to know that we are correcting the ejection problems in an "approved" manner.
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Old 04-10-2012, 15:31   #365
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It should work. But you need to use a non-LCI spring loaded bearing with that extractor. Your Gen1 G17 should have a non-LCI spring loaded bearing in it.
I did check the extractor plunger out and it mike'd the same as the one on my old 1 pin G17. The only difference I noted was that the little plastic "teat" on that bears on the slide cover is a bit longer on the early pistol. Is that the "bearing" of which you speak?

If so where can you purchase the older "little plastic nub"?
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I did check the extractor plunger out and it mike'd the same as the one on my old 1 pin G17. The only difference I noted was that the little plastic "teat" on that bears on the slide cover is a bit longer on the early pistol. Is that the "bearing" of which you speak?

If so where can you purchase the older "little plastic nub"?
Yes the plastic piece is the bearing. The ones for the non lci are white and bigger. You can still purchase them through a lot of places since glock still makes them and they are an available part.
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Old 04-10-2012, 16:14   #367
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I polished up my extractor. I went 1911 on its ass. I just used some flitz and my dremmel and did a light polish to all the wear areas. top, bottom, and that place by the hook. Too all of a few mins to get everything shined up and looking nice. Lets just see what a difference it might make. Mine actually had a pretty deep scrape on the top of it. I didn't go as deep as that but I did polish it up and made sure that didn't have any sharp edges sticking up.
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aren't the white ones the ones for ther .40S&W?

i got LCI and non LCI bearings and for the 9mm they both are black.

got a gen 3. G17 mint condition, production date 04/2004 last weekend and from the first mag it had erratic ejection, every 10-15rds brass to the head or right shoulder (shootingh right handed), installed the new 30274 nistead of the old factory installed 336, problem solved, no issues anymore!
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aren't the white ones the ones for ther .40S&W?

i got LCI and non LCI bearings and for the 9mm they both are black.

got a gen 3. G17 mint condition, production date 04/2004 last weekend and from the first mag it had erratic ejection, every 10-15rds brass to the head or right shoulder (shootingh right handed), installed the new 30274 nistead of the old factory installed 336, problem solved, no issues anymore!
The little plastic "bearings" in my 9mm pistols is black, on my .40 the plastic is white.
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aren't the white ones the ones for ther .40S&W?

i got LCI and non LCI bearings and for the 9mm they both are black.

got a gen 3. G17 mint condition, production date 04/2004 last weekend and from the first mag it had erratic ejection, every 10-15rds brass to the head or right shoulder (shootingh right handed), installed the new 30274 nistead of the old factory installed 336, problem solved, no issues anymore!
White for .40, Black for 9mm & Olive Drab for .45.

High shoulder for non-LCI extractors, low shoulder for LCI.
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:52   #371
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thanks ;-)

has someone a direct comparison pic of a non-LCI bearing and a LCI bearing (wanna see the difference in the shoulder)?

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I just called glock about my ejection issues and they flat out told me to try polishing the extractor. I was like WTF? For real?
At one point they told someone to try a LWD extractor.
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I called Glock this morning and they are sending me a shipping label to send the gun back in to them.

No hesitation on their part.

Funny thing though is they suggested I try a LWD extractor. I told them I did and he said I should just send it back in.
153, the spring loaded bearing you need to use with a non-LCI 9mm extractor is the 9mm non-LCI spring loaded bearing, the one on the left in the picture below. It's still sold by multiple online retailers. 9mm SLB's are black, 40/357/45GAP are white, 10mm/45ACP are Olive Drab green.
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thanks for the pic, voyager
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This is all very interesting, and I am sure learning alot about the "ins and outs' of my Glock pistols, so pardon my questions/observations ...

The difference between the plastic bearings is length, the older bearing being longer, would in theory put a bit more pressure on the extractor.

Was this change made to allow the new hook to move more easily, and prehaps to function better? Both styles of extractor where they engage the plunger - appear identical. So why not run the shorter bearing with the older hook? I would think the pistol would work fine, since it has the better finished non-LCI hook and the easy function of the shorter bearing?

Or is the theory that less tension on the extractor might result in "erratic" ejection, hence the real issue lies not with the extractor hook itself, but the shortened bearing?

PS: I have ordered the old style bearing...
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I don't know why the non-LCI extractors have a SLB which gives more spring tension. I have heard of a few people who ordered the wrong replacement extractors, they used 90 degree non-LCI extractors and they used them with the LCI spring loaded bearings that were already in the guns. They shot a few rounds and the extractor fell out of the slide.

From what I can see, if the extractor is closed and flush with the outside side of the slide, the part of the extractor that the extractor depressor plunger pushes against is slightly further forward toward the muzzle on a non-LCI extractor.

Edit: I just swung the LCI and non-LCI extractors in each of my guns with my finger and the non-LCI feels slightly heavier but it's barely detectable.
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OK! That makes sense...

THANKS!
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aren't the white ones the ones for ther .40S&W?

i got LCI and non LCI bearings and for the 9mm they both are black.

got a gen 3. G17 mint condition, production date 04/2004 last weekend and from the first mag it had erratic ejection, every 10-15rds brass to the head or right shoulder (shootingh right handed), installed the new 30274 nistead of the old factory installed 336, problem solved, no issues anymore!

so where did you get this elusive 30274 ejector?
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no prob in europe, they are common spare parts here
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no prob in europe, they are common spare parts here
Anyway to order the ejectors or non-LCI extractors with the 15 degree cut to be imported into the USA?
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i don't know if that would be economic and reasonable, cause the price for handling and shipping will exceed the parts price by far.

i think the better and cheaper way would be to sit and wait (also i know that's very hard) till they are available in masses in the states.

in austria i get my parts directly from the LE/MIL support unit, so i can't really say anything 'bout the civilian shops, but i suppose there are some that have them in stock, but my experience with them is, that 95% of the owners know much less than the standard user at glock talk, most of the shop owners won't even know that there are different ejectors and extractors in one gen. of a glock

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