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06-01-2012, 23:10
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#651
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Fixed a G19 Gen4 today. A friend of mine has two G19 (both came with the new style ejector) gen4's, one is very reliable and ejects perfect all kinds of ammo even the weak/cheap ones since day one. The other one is horrible, it stovepiped from time to time and ejects in every direction you can think of, until today. The bad one had an infamous to me # "3" extractor in it. I also had bad luck with the #3 extractor in my 23 gen4's.
I replaced his bad extractor with an new stock 9mm LCI extractor with a "2" on it and fired 200 rounds through it, the gun functioned flawless! I mean the ejection couldn't be better, just perfect. I was not able to tell any differences in between the two extractors, they looked the same to me except of the glossy finish of the #2 extractor. All I know is, that little #2 extractor fixed that gun. I don't know if the extractors with a # 1 or a # 4 on it work as great as the # 2 extractor, I only have experiance with the #2 extractor. Thats the only one I order, because they seem to fix the ejection problems.
I suggest everyone who has ejection problems to try out that # "2" extractor. glockparts.com just got a fresh shipment of 9mm LCI extractors a little over a week ago. Just write a note in that little request/question box that they should only send you an extractor with a # 2 on it when you order it. Thats what I did last week and it worked great.
Ammo tested: 100 rounds of WWB 115gr
50 rounds of American eagle 115gr
50 rounds of American eagle 125gr
All ejected in a nice arc to the 3-4 o'clock position.
Last edited by Made in Austria; 06-01-2012 at 23:59..
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06-02-2012, 08:21
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#652
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Who are you ordering from???
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06-02-2012, 08:43
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#653
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glockparts.com has them.
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06-02-2012, 22:05
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#654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Made in Austria
Fixed a G19 Gen4 today. A friend of mine has two G19 (both came with the new style ejector) gen4's, one is very reliable and ejects perfect all kinds of ammo even the weak/cheap ones since day one. The other one is horrible, it stovepiped from time to time and ejects in every direction you can think of, until today. The bad one had an infamous to me # "3" extractor in it. I also had bad luck with the #3 extractor in my 23 gen4's.
I replaced his bad extractor with an new stock 9mm LCI extractor with a "2" on it and fired 200 rounds through it, the gun functioned flawless! I mean the ejection couldn't be better, just perfect. I was not able to tell any differences in between the two extractors, they looked the same to me except of the glossy finish of the #2 extractor. All I know is, that little #2 extractor fixed that gun. I don't know if the extractors with a # 1 or a # 4 on it work as great as the # 2 extractor, I only have experiance with the #2 extractor. Thats the only one I order, because they seem to fix the ejection problems.
I suggest everyone who has ejection problems to try out that # "2" extractor. glockparts.com just got a fresh shipment of 9mm LCI extractors a little over a week ago. Just write a note in that little request/question box that they should only send you an extractor with a # 2 on it when you order it. Thats what I did last week and it worked great.
Ammo tested: 100 rounds of WWB 115gr
50 rounds of American eagle 115gr
50 rounds of American eagle 125gr
All ejected in a nice arc to the 3-4 o'clock position.
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Where do you find the number? I don't see one on my extractor.
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06-04-2012, 08:26
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#655
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The newer extractors have numbers on the base of the "post". They are supposed to be for mold identifaction, but maybe the numbers are more significent.
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06-04-2012, 09:27
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#656
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Podunk, MS
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Is the extractor from GP part number SP01895?
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06-04-2012, 10:09
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#657
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blee2112
Is the extractor from GP part number SP01895?
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Yes, that's the correct # for the 9mm extractor with the loaded chamber indicator. If you are going to order one, make sure they ship you one with a # "2" on it. The number can be found on the "round leg" of the extractor.
Last edited by Made in Austria; 06-04-2012 at 10:18..
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06-04-2012, 12:19
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#658
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Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager4520
Which of these two spots are you guys talking about? Or neither?
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On the "new" extractor that came in my G27, I noticed some pretty extreme wear on spot #1.
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I have had 7 misfires in my glock 27 (most with Fiocci ammo, hint, that i quit buying.) Even so i still have an occasional FTE (empty shell left in chamber) and a stove pipe very occasionally.
There are so many comments that talk about polishing the extractor. WHICH points do you polish and with what? It's still unclear to me. Do you polish point 1, do you polish the part the pivots, what does "top and bottom mean?
If somebody could clear this up i'd be grateful...pictures would be nice if you have them.
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06-04-2012, 19:51
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#659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Markasaurus
I have had 7 misfires in my glock 27 (most with Fiocci ammo, hint, that i quit buying.) Even so i still have an occasional FTE (empty shell left in chamber) and a stove pipe very occasionally.
There are so many comments that talk about polishing the extractor. WHICH points do you polish and with what? It's still unclear to me. Do you polish point 1, do you polish the part the pivots, what does "top and bottom mean?
If somebody could clear this up i'd be grateful...pictures would be nice if you have them.
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What he said ^
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06-04-2012, 20:19
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#660
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I'm still wondering what is a "non LCI non MIM extractor" and where you get one!
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06-04-2012, 20:23
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#661
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Originally Posted by blee2112
I'm still wondering what is a "non LCI non MIM extractor" and where you get one!
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Here ya go. The pic is wrong, but the part is what you're looking for. I just got one from them.
http://triggeraction.net/shoppingcar...le-Nonlci.html
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06-04-2012, 20:59
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#662
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: North Texas
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Another 100 rounds and a bit more extractor polish
Shot another 100, after another polish (a bit more) ejections were much stronger and consistent (BVAC 180 gr fmj). I also changed the ejector. Therefore in the year of our Lord 2012 May 4th i hereby declare my Glock 23 Gen 4 is Fixed. Now if only my accuracy was better using my new artzen 2/3 target i bought. Guess i can't blame that on the ejections - it aint the gun. More practice needed.
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06-04-2012, 21:17
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#663
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Made in Austria
Fixed a G19 Gen4 today. A friend of mine has two G19 (both came with the new style ejector) gen4's, one is very reliable and ejects perfect all kinds of ammo even the weak/cheap ones since day one. The other one is horrible, it stovepiped from time to time and ejects in every direction you can think of, until today. The bad one had an infamous to me # "3" extractor in it. I also had bad luck with the #3 extractor in my 23 gen4's.
I replaced his bad extractor with an new stock 9mm LCI extractor with a "2" on it and fired 200 rounds through it, the gun functioned flawless! I mean the ejection couldn't be better, just perfect. I was not able to tell any differences in between the two extractors, they looked the same to me except of the glossy finish of the #2 extractor. All I know is, that little #2 extractor fixed that gun. I don't know if the extractors with a # 1 or a # 4 on it work as great as the # 2 extractor, I only have experiance with the #2 extractor. Thats the only one I order, because they seem to fix the ejection problems.
I suggest everyone who has ejection problems to try out that # "2" extractor. glockparts.com just got a fresh shipment of 9mm LCI extractors a little over a week ago. Just write a note in that little request/question box that they should only send you an extractor with a # 2 on it when you order it. Thats what I did last week and it worked great.
Ammo tested: 100 rounds of WWB 115gr
50 rounds of American eagle 115gr
50 rounds of American eagle 125gr
All ejected in a nice arc to the 3-4 o'clock position.
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Did you replace the bearing as well or just the extractor ?
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06-04-2012, 21:35
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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NEW ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY:Extraction problem fix.
Apex Tactical Solutions, the guys well known for making trigger parts that greatly improve the M&P trigger, just announced today on their Facebook page the introduction of their extractor and ejector (I believe) for the Glock 9mms that need this fix.
Good luck guys.
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06-04-2012, 21:48
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#665
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Is this a Gen 4 issue?
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06-04-2012, 22:16
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Apex is good to go
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06-04-2012, 22:18
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Originally Posted by Glock22C
Is this a Gen 4 issue?
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I thought you must have been new here but then i looked at your number of posts. haha, very funny. Yes and for those who may be new, apparently it's also an issue with some late model Gen3 G17 and G19.
(Both my Gen3 G17 and G26 are 100%)
Just thought I might help others frustrated by these ongoing problems. Looks like Apex Tactical Solutioons may have the fix.
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06-04-2012, 22:50
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#668
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I didn't know the product was ready. That's great news.
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06-04-2012, 23:07
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Cool. So you have to buy a gun then buy some parts from an aftermarket company for it to work. No thanks. Unless GLOCK fixes the problem, I want nothing to do with a gen4 9mm.
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06-04-2012, 23:34
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#670
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I replaced just the extractor.
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06-04-2012, 23:40
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#671
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Is that the company that says on their website they are in the process of moving until late June? I'd be excited if they were actually taking orders on their site.
But right now big freakin' deal
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06-05-2012, 04:54
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#672
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Location: Central Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterWizard
Cool. So you have to buy a gun then buy some parts from an aftermarket company for it to work. No thanks. Unless GLOCK fixes the problem, I want nothing to do with a gen4 9mm.
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Recent production Gen3 is having problems too.
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06-05-2012, 07:13
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#673
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterWizard
Cool. So you have to buy a gun then buy some parts from an aftermarket company for it to work. No thanks. Unless GLOCK fixes the problem, I want nothing to do with a gen4 9mm.
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AMEN TO THAT!!!!!
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06-05-2012, 07:30
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#674
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterWizard
Cool. So you have to buy a gun then buy some parts from an aftermarket company for it to work. No thanks. Unless GLOCK fixes the problem, I want nothing to do with a gen4 9mm.
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$20 in parts as opposed to waiting for Glock to fix the problem seems reasonable to me. Glock may never solve the problem.
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06-05-2012, 07:58
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#675
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Where exactly is this announcement? All I saw was a picture of the part extractors and springs with this caption: "Our beta test Glock extractors and depressor springs going through final QC...  "
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