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Old 05-21-2012, 13:52   #601
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Yea, I went through this with my 17L. 30274 and the LW extractor and bearing did the trick. I've heard good things about the HRED so I'll try that do. The parts are cheap so what the hell.
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Old 05-21-2012, 14:08   #602
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good luck, keep us updated
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Old 05-22-2012, 16:40   #603
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Tried almost all...

Alright guys...

My January born G17 Gen4 only does about 3-5 rounds to the cranial region every 3 mags. I am kinda peeved about it so I tried almost all the methods of correction.

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Stock - New RSA 024, 30274 Ejector 3-5 rounds to head every 3 mags

Lone Wolf Extractor ordered from Midway - Condition worse

Stock Extractor+HRED White Sound Defense Extractor Spring - 1 round to head in 3 mags

Lone Wolf Extractor+HRED White Sound Defense Extractor - Terrible


So far my best results are from Stock Extractor (after 750rds, its kinda polished) and the HRED WSD Extractor Spring

Any other posted fixes appreciated as always!

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Old 05-23-2012, 18:10   #604
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When you have tried such a varied approach, like switching out a whole bunch of parts it's hard not to conclude that ammunition may be the cause.
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Old 05-23-2012, 18:19   #605
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As Ive said earlier, with my guns, it seems that what youre shooting out of them is more the issue than anything else, and especially when reloads are involved.

Nothing has changed there either, I still only get bonked in the head with reloads, and especially reloads that have been loaded a lot. Factory new ammo doesnt skip a beat.
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Old 05-23-2012, 19:25   #606
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I have decided not to send my SUX prefix G34 back to Glock. For now anyway.

Today I got my 30274 ejector, White Sound Defense HRED and Lone Wolf LCI ejector and did a lot of experimenting.

My concerns with this gun were weak and erratic ejection, lots of rounds straight back.

First I installed the 30274 ejector and shot a couple mags. It was a little better, very few came back but still weak. Then I installed the HRED in and there was no change. Then I put the LW LCI extractor in and still little change. Finally I replaced the HRED wih the factory unit with the LW LCI extractor and bearing and all rounds were at 4:00 in one pile about 2 ft away.

This surprised me because I had heard the HRED increased ejection power but maybe with the LW extractor and no bearing it doesn't. I did try it with the factory extractor and still got rounds straight back.

This weekend I'll give the HRED another try with an old non LCI non MIM extractor and see if I get stronger extraction. And yes, the hotter ammo I used the farther in went, but the difference was inches not feet.

Right now, with 30274 ejector and LW extractor and bearing I get a neat pile 2 ft away. Frankly I don't have a problem with this. It will definatley make picking up my brass easier. Hell, if I put a bucket down I could probably get half of my brass to drop right in.

I have had no malfunctions so my issues were the erratic ejection and weak ejection. The former has been solved. My ejection is very, very consistent, more than my old Glocks. As far as weak ejection. Unless I get an FTF, this may be a plus not a minus. I pick up my brass and this ejection pattern makes it easier.

If things change and I start getting brass hitting my in the chest and head I'll put the OEM extractor back and send it to Glock. If I get stronger ejection with an old non LCI non MIM extractor I'll have to think about it. I'll report back after the weekend but I just may leave it the way it is.

The worst results were with Magtech 115gr ball. I ran out or Magtech and switched to PRVI 115 gr ball. It's a tad hotter than the Magtech but the difference was minor. Federal 147 HST and Spear Lawman went the farthest but again the difference was minor. With this setup the erratic ejection seems to be solved.

Sorry for the long post but I wanted to be thorough.
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Old 05-23-2012, 20:04   #607
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glock actually put out a serial number with "SUX" as the prefix? that's gotta be a sign to stay away from that series.
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Old 05-23-2012, 20:11   #608
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glock actually put out a serial number with "SUX" as the prefix? that's gotta be a sign to stay away from that series.
It gave me pause My friends PB ejects just like mine but his has stock parts including ejector but it has a lot of rounds through it. My early P prefix G19s all function well, PD and PF.
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Old 05-23-2012, 20:15   #609
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New Ejector Received.

Bought a Gen 4 Glock 23 - shot 400 rounds and head shots received. Difference in ammo made some of the shots go over my head, different ammo lack the "arch and hang time" and would bounce between your eyes. When shooting Tula ammo it actually went inside my glasses and i had to di out the hot spent casing - joy. About a 10-15 % failure rate on ejections was seen.

Ok, here is the deal:

Glock sent new ejector 28926 and it replaced the 1882 ejector. The new ejector if you look from the tip back - looks like someone twisted it 10-15 degrees CCW. The 1882 ejector was straight.

Whatever - shot 100 rounds TODAY with BVAC manufacturer ammo ejections where strong and 3-4 o'clock - where they should be. I will shoot more saturday - but i think it is fixed. FYI. I polished the extractor top and bottom lightly (as in the Dave Nowlen method) and that did no good prior to replacing the ejector. I love the gun - truly do. My supertuck came in this week - and its a great holster for the Glock 23 - no more pain. All i lack is the CHL from tx to come in mail. Viva Glock!

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Old 05-24-2012, 02:52   #610
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@az larry.
do you use the 9mm or the .40 LWD extractor in your 9mm glock?
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It gave me pause My friends PB ejects just like mine but his has stock parts including ejector but it has a lot of rounds through it. My early P prefix G19s all function well, PD and PF.
my new G17 GEN3 "RUZ" series gun has bad ejections. still working on trying different things mentioned in this thread.
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do you use the 9mm or the .40 LWD extractor in your 9mm glock?
9mm haven't read anything about using the 40 extractor in a 9mm
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:53   #613
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in fact it's quite common to use the .40 LWD extractor in a 9mm glock instead of the 9mm LWD.
the .40 extractor has a different claw and minimal different angle, so it holds the (9mm)-brass a little bit longer and tighter than the 9mm extractor does.

but if everything is alright now, no need to change anything
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:49   #614
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The only reason I'd change extratcors now is to get the brass to kick out farther and stronger. Like an older Glock. I don't think the .40 would do that. Frankly not sure anything would short of milling the ejection port.

I still think the late Gen 3 slides are made differently than early ones. I'd bet that if I got an old G34 slide and put it on my frame, even with the old ejector, it would eject 10 ft like the old Glocks.

But as long as I don't get either failures or brass to the chest/face I'm ok with it.
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Old 05-24-2012, 13:07   #615
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well the .40 extractor holds the 9mm spent brass longer and tighter so it'll for sure affect the extraction pattern, if farther out and stronger must be checked individually, but as long as your gun runs fine know, i'd see no need to change anything
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Didn't TexasPO offer this suggestion awhile back with great success? I think you are all on to something.
Yes he did and it worked out fine.Have a safe night.
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Hred?

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Old 05-24-2012, 16:49   #618
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White Sound Defense H.R.E.D.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:02   #619
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White Sound Defense H.R.E.D.
Very interesting, the description of how the HRED works is thought provoking. When I was new to Glocks, I once put my G19's extractor/depressor in backwards. Fortunately I noticed the "goof" before doing any shooting.

Maybe I was on to something and didn't know it?
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:50   #620
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I just saw a pic of a 30276 ejector on another forum. Not a 30274. This was installed in an Glock 17. Anyone know about this number? The pic was from the side so I could not tell if it had the curve of the 30274.
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