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Old 05-25-2012, 08:37   #621
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can you "link" it?
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:50   #622
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can you "link" it?

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=105974&page=2

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Old 05-25-2012, 09:57   #623
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I emailed a pic of this ejector to Glock, the rep has not heard of it! He promised to get back to me after showing it to his manager. Very strange
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:14   #624
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Excellent.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:06   #625
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i looked at the pic also, to me it seems like the "4" is kind of miss-stamped and looks like a "6", but i assume it is a "4", also not very nice stamped

but of course i'm very interested in what the glock rep. says, would be very confusing if glock uses the "336" for an eternity and now would have two new ejectors coming so fast after one another
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:39   #626
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I think your right, I guess I should email Glock so they don't waste their time and go back to fixing stuff.

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i looked at the pic also, to me it seems like the "4" is kind of miss-stamped and looks like a "6", but i assume it is a "4", also not very nice stamped

but of course i'm very interested in what the glock rep. says, would be very confusing if glock uses the "336" for an eternity and now would have two new ejectors coming so fast after one another
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:08   #627
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thanks, that was my first guess about the missprinted "4".

here in europe i saw lots of the 3072"4" ejectors as spare parts and some numbers were not stamped so nicely, so i just assumed it'll be the same way with "your" 3072"6"/"4"
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:15   #628
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I wonder if Glock Austria is aware of these issues. Maybe you should take the train and talk with Gaston!
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:22   #629
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right, if i'm invited for dinner next time in his mansion, i'll give him a hint ;-)
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Old 05-26-2012, 17:29   #630
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Can someone post a picture of that 30276 ejector? I can't see it on that board.

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Old 05-26-2012, 19:08   #631
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Can someone post a picture of that 30276 ejector? I can't see it on that board.
It was a 30274, the pic looked like a 6 but it was a bad stamp. Someplace there is a pic of the 30274
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Old 05-26-2012, 19:26   #632
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Well the LWD 9mm w/336 was not a success at the range yesterday. I'm going to throw the 30274 ejector in it and see if that helps. If not, then I'll try the lwd 40 or glock oem 40 extractor with the 336.
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Old 05-26-2012, 19:46   #633
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It was a 30274, the pic looked like a 6 but it was a bad stamp. Someplace there is a pic of the 30274

I have the 30274's. I thought there was some new 30276 ejector.

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Old 05-27-2012, 17:07   #634
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Ok, as promised I have some stuff to report, I would have gone yesterday but we had really high winds, not conducive to monitoring extraction.

Guns are both late Gen 3, a 17L and G34. We decided to be methodical so instead of putting a bunch of parts and testing the guns out we started with both guns being out in original factory configuration and installing and testing with just one part at a time.

First, the 30274 ejectors solved the brass to the face issue with less than optimum ammo (more on this later). Without the 30274 brass ejected everywhere, so the 30274 went in both guns.

We then added Lone Wolf 9mm LCI extractors and their bearing. No improvement and some degradation in extraction, I had thought it helped before but after going back and forth several times I ended going back to the MIM extractor.

Next we tried White Sound defense extractor plunger springs. No improvement definite degradation.

Finally installed White Sound Defense HRED extractor plungers. These helped extraction a tiny bit but for me it's wasn't worth spending the money on and I went back to factory plungers.

Ok, here is the part your going to hate. Ammo. My less expensive range ammo had the worst ejection. This includes Magtech 115gr ball, WWB 115gr ball, American Eagle 115gr ball and PRVI 115gr ball. All this plinking ammo ejected weakly at my right about 4:00 after installing the 30274 ejectors.

Then I fired some NATO 124gr milsurp stamped WCC and it ejected strongly and consistently to my 4:00 farther by almost 2 ft. Same with my carry ammo, Federal HST 147 gr and also with Spear Lawman 147gr.

I am not saying cheap ammo caused extraction issues but I am saying in my 2 late Gen 3 guns, ammo was responsible for weak extraction. Whatever Glock changed in these guns during manufacturing amplifies the difference between low quality ammo and high quality ammo.

If you know that going in, you'll have less angst about your gun.

I also installed old non LCI non MIM extractors and they made the plinking ammo eject stronger but still no big improvement.

In conclusion, I had zero malfunctions and zero brass to my head with the 30274 ejectors. Everything else in these two guns will remain stock. The HREDs and LW parts will be out and put away.

If Glock or Apex comes up with a new extractor that eliminates the need for a 30274 ejector then great. I don't believe a late Gen 3 gun will eject every kind if ammo consistently like the old Gen 3s. My opinion is that it does relate to the ejection port being different. But for me, the 30274 is all I need. I will continue to train with the least expensive ammo I can find. I would love to find more Nato ammo for training or plinking but knowing that with my defensive ammo I have reliable consistent ejection is good enough.
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Old 05-27-2012, 18:00   #635
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glad to hear the "30274" solved your probs.

in my 2 problem guns the "30274" also did the job, combined with a non-LCI non-MIM OEM extractor with non LCI SLB i got strong ejection to 4-5 3-4 feet to the right with both problem glocks.
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Old 05-29-2012, 21:34   #636
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Just a little FYI; Polishing on the extractor can possibly make things worse. YMMV, but you can read about my experiences here:
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1424361
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:34   #637
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Well the LWD 9mm w/336 was not a success at the range yesterday. I'm going to throw the 30274 ejector in it and see if that helps. If not, then I'll try the lwd 40 or glock oem 40 extractor with the 336.

I am very interested in this......Let us know what works for you.

I believe that the 336 ejector is not the problem, just a band-aid for a more severe problem....it has to be the extractor or an out of spec slide.

I have 336 ejectors in several 2008 and earlier 9mm Glocks and they function perfectly.....so it isn't the ejector.

I have a new Glock 17 with the prefix of "SLL" and it has the glossy black finish, not the ghost grey finish....it is also %100 Austrian. The barrel has the "AT" marking and the frame was also made in Austria.

I routinely get brass ejecting towards my face...im not limp wristing! and I use all sorts of ammo. I have researched this topic and this issue extensively.

Glock sent me the "new" ejector and it didn't do anything different...still brass in the face and ejection was very erratic still. Some shooting to the left even. I am getting tired of this.

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Old 05-30-2012, 13:52   #638
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If you have the new ejector and it's still doing this you should call Glock. I read one guy did this and they sent him a new Gen 4 that he's happy with. I guess I'm lucky the ejector solved the 6:00 issue.


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I am very interested in this......Let us know what works for you.

I believe that the 336 ejector is not the problem, just a band-aid for a more severe problem....it has to be the extractor or an out of spec slide.

I have 336 ejectors in several 2008 and earlier 9mm Glocks and they function perfectly.....so it isn't the ejector.

I have a new Glock 17 with the prefix of "SLL" and it has the glossy black finish, not the ghost grey finish....it is also %100 Austrian. The barrel has the "AT" marking and the frame was also made in Austria.

I routinely get brass ejecting towards my face...im not limp wristing! and I use all sorts of ammo. I have researched this topic and this issue extensively.

Glock sent me the "new" ejector and it didn't do anything different...still brass in the face and ejection was very erratic still. Some shooting to the left even. I am getting tired of this.
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Old 05-30-2012, 14:31   #639
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in most cases the new ejector will fix the prob, in some not, you can try a new 9mm or .40 extractor and this in combination with the new ejector will fix it in almost all cases.
there are some very few cases in which both remedies didn't help, those should go back to glock in order to get a new one

just my 2 cents
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Old 05-30-2012, 15:48   #640
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If you have the new ejector and it's still doing this you should call Glock. I read one guy did this and they sent him a new Gen 4 that he's happy with. I guess I'm lucky the ejector solved the 6:00 issue.
I am not interested in getting a new Gen4 or even a new Gen3. I like the gloss black finish, not the newer ghost grey finish.

Also, laugh at me if you must, but I like the fact that mine is all Austrian. Im sure it doesn't matter one way or the other, but I like it. I like my Beretta's made in Italy, and I like my 1911's made in the USA.

so I guess I am stuck....
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