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Old 05-30-2012, 15:52   #641
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that's exactly my philosophy too:
berettas made in italy
1911s made in the US
glocks made in austria
HKs made in germany
etc.
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Old 05-31-2012, 14:05   #642
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Update on my erractic ejection expierence:

Had some issues with my G19 and G26, some dribbles and left ejects - none to the head except with very weak reloads. IMO looks like they were all ammo related in the final analysis.

Today I shot a recently acquired Glock 17, an early second generation, 1 - pin frame with a KT1XX serial number. It is all stock with original parts. I had only a single ten round magazine with me. Using the WWB ball ammo that worked perfectly in my 3 Gen G26, I loaded up and cranked off ten rounds. All but one hit me right in the forehead!!!

I didn't waste any more ammo. I have already done a through clean on this pistol and verified that it has all it's original parts.

So much for "erratic ejection" being confined to late Gen 3 pistols.

After being pelted by the G17, I switched to my G27 and delighted in "Glock Perfection".
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Old 05-31-2012, 15:01   #643
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153, That is the same experience I had with my 1988 G17 Gen 1
when I got it back from the factory.
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Old 05-31-2012, 16:03   #644
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I forgot to mention what happened to my friend - who's Glock 19 frame developed right side crack. He sent it back to Glock and they replaced the frame. They would not fix it for free ( reason unknown ) so he had to pay $42 for a new frame.

Glock replaced the frame, but recycled his older Gen 2 slide, barrel and frame pieces. When the G19 returned, and was loaded up and taken to the range ... you guessed it ... all rounds to the forehead!

This G19 had no ejection issues prior the being sent back, it even performed perfectly with the crack in the frame, but like my older G17 it's a head banger now.

I have not had a chance to look the piece over, should be able to next week, but again this is not a Gen 4 or late Gen 3????
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Old 05-31-2012, 16:50   #645
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went with another buddy to the range today, he bought a brand new G19 gen4 production in 03/12, out of several different ammo brands with different bullet weights, he always got 2-3 rds from each mag (15rds) to the head.
"30274" already installed by factory.

the mystery is going on to the next level i suppose

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Old 05-31-2012, 16:56   #646
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I am so glad I'm not getting any more Glocks. Luckily I'm done. If my kids want to buy handguns ther getting M&Ps
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:27   #647
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Yeah, but the M&Ps are having accuracy issues (in 9mm) and their triggers are God-awful.

The PPQ looks like a more viable alternative to the G19 than does the M&P.

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Old 06-01-2012, 13:06   #648
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I would not "jump ship" because of these issues. Glocks have a well-deserved reputation for reliability, what's going on now may be more related to a drop in ammo quality than anything else.

If these issues were not part of Glock lore until recently, why would a older Gen 2 G17 be painting my face?

Also why would a Glock that had it's frame exchanged, but all other parts replaced suddenly start tossing rounds to the face. It's certainly not a slide or ejector issue ... almost has to be ammo?
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Old 06-01-2012, 16:22   #649
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Another 100 rounds - new 28926 ejector Gen 4 Glock 23

Shot another 100 rounds with cheap BVAC 180 gr fmj reman ammo. Still no head shots, new ejector has appeared to have resolved my problem (200 rounds fired with new 28926 ejector). MIM extractor lightly polished. I think Glock is good now.

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Old 06-01-2012, 16:47   #650
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That great! I'm shooting my G34 more this weekend if I can get there early enough. Its insanely hot right now. But I'm pretty sure the ejector did the trick.
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Old 06-01-2012, 23:10   #651
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Fixed a G19 Gen4 today. A friend of mine has two G19 (both came with the new style ejector) gen4's, one is very reliable and ejects perfect all kinds of ammo even the weak/cheap ones since day one. The other one is horrible, it stovepiped from time to time and ejects in every direction you can think of, until today. The bad one had an infamous to me # "3" extractor in it. I also had bad luck with the #3 extractor in my 23 gen4's.

I replaced his bad extractor with an new stock 9mm LCI extractor with a "2" on it and fired 200 rounds through it, the gun functioned flawless! I mean the ejection couldn't be better, just perfect. I was not able to tell any differences in between the two extractors, they looked the same to me except of the glossy finish of the #2 extractor. All I know is, that little #2 extractor fixed that gun. I don't know if the extractors with a # 1 or a # 4 on it work as great as the # 2 extractor, I only have experiance with the #2 extractor. Thats the only one I order, because they seem to fix the ejection problems.

I suggest everyone who has ejection problems to try out that # "2" extractor. glockparts.com just got a fresh shipment of 9mm LCI extractors a little over a week ago. Just write a note in that little request/question box that they should only send you an extractor with a # 2 on it when you order it. Thats what I did last week and it worked great.

Ammo tested: 100 rounds of WWB 115gr

50 rounds of American eagle 115gr

50 rounds of American eagle 125gr

All ejected in a nice arc to the 3-4 o'clock position.

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Old 06-02-2012, 08:21   #652
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Who are you ordering from???
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:43   #653
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glockparts.com has them.
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Old 06-02-2012, 22:05   #654
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Fixed a G19 Gen4 today. A friend of mine has two G19 (both came with the new style ejector) gen4's, one is very reliable and ejects perfect all kinds of ammo even the weak/cheap ones since day one. The other one is horrible, it stovepiped from time to time and ejects in every direction you can think of, until today. The bad one had an infamous to me # "3" extractor in it. I also had bad luck with the #3 extractor in my 23 gen4's.

I replaced his bad extractor with an new stock 9mm LCI extractor with a "2" on it and fired 200 rounds through it, the gun functioned flawless! I mean the ejection couldn't be better, just perfect. I was not able to tell any differences in between the two extractors, they looked the same to me except of the glossy finish of the #2 extractor. All I know is, that little #2 extractor fixed that gun. I don't know if the extractors with a # 1 or a # 4 on it work as great as the # 2 extractor, I only have experiance with the #2 extractor. Thats the only one I order, because they seem to fix the ejection problems.

I suggest everyone who has ejection problems to try out that # "2" extractor. glockparts.com just got a fresh shipment of 9mm LCI extractors a little over a week ago. Just write a note in that little request/question box that they should only send you an extractor with a # 2 on it when you order it. Thats what I did last week and it worked great.

Ammo tested: 100 rounds of WWB 115gr

50 rounds of American eagle 115gr

50 rounds of American eagle 125gr

All ejected in a nice arc to the 3-4 o'clock position.
Where do you find the number? I don't see one on my extractor.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:26   #655
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The newer extractors have numbers on the base of the "post". They are supposed to be for mold identifaction, but maybe the numbers are more significent.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:27   #656
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Is the extractor from GP part number SP01895?
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:09   #657
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Is the extractor from GP part number SP01895?
Yes, that's the correct # for the 9mm extractor with the loaded chamber indicator. If you are going to order one, make sure they ship you one with a # "2" on it. The number can be found on the "round leg" of the extractor.

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Old 06-04-2012, 12:19   #658
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Which of these two spots are you guys talking about? Or neither?

1. General Glocking

2. General Glocking

On the "new" extractor that came in my G27, I noticed some pretty extreme wear on spot #1.
I have had 7 misfires in my glock 27 (most with Fiocci ammo, hint, that i quit buying.) Even so i still have an occasional FTE (empty shell left in chamber) and a stove pipe very occasionally.
There are so many comments that talk about polishing the extractor. WHICH points do you polish and with what? It's still unclear to me. Do you polish point 1, do you polish the part the pivots, what does "top and bottom mean?

If somebody could clear this up i'd be grateful...pictures would be nice if you have them.
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Old 06-04-2012, 19:51   #659
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I have had 7 misfires in my glock 27 (most with Fiocci ammo, hint, that i quit buying.) Even so i still have an occasional FTE (empty shell left in chamber) and a stove pipe very occasionally.
There are so many comments that talk about polishing the extractor. WHICH points do you polish and with what? It's still unclear to me. Do you polish point 1, do you polish the part the pivots, what does "top and bottom mean?

If somebody could clear this up i'd be grateful...pictures would be nice if you have them.

What he said ^
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Old 06-04-2012, 20:19   #660
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I'm still wondering what is a "non LCI non MIM extractor" and where you get one!
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