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02-20-2012, 00:48
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Buying FIRST handgun, couple questions <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hey,
Its tax return time and im in the mood to buy a new/first handgun. Ive been doing alot of research and narrowing down my decision for the right first handgun. A quick little bit of info, ive chosen to go with the 9mm as the caliber, going to be used as weekend shooter/home defense. And im a lefty.
Ok that being said ive chosen a couple guns that have really caught my eye...
- CZ 85 B
- Glock 17 Gen 4
- CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom
Like I said all three in 9mm....The first two guns are ambidextrous which obviously I want. But that leads me to my next question, I really like the CZ Phantom. I have heard nothing but good reviews on it, but to my knowledge its non ambidextrous...so...how common is it for south paws to own non ambidextrous guns? How does that generally work out? Thanks guys.
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02-20-2012, 00:58
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I know a few lefties who shoot right handed for that reason... Something to think about. Even most ambi guns only have the slide stop on one side.
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02-20-2012, 01:00
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I'd recommend grabbing that Glock. Out of those 3 it will be the one that you'll still have 20 years from now.
On second thought maybe look at a G19...
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02-20-2012, 01:07
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Walther PPQ has mag release and slide release on BOTH sides.
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02-20-2012, 01:10
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Like you I am new to glock. Just bought my first one two weeks ago. Got a G27. However I'm not new to buying guns and something I have learned "good" guns don't lose there value that much so if you do buy one of the three and don't like it you can resale it and not lose that much money.
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02-20-2012, 01:23
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I don't have any experience with cz, but I hear they are awesome... And I know Glocks are awesome. I really don't think you can go wrong with that selection, but I would add a Glock 19 to the list. Love my 19 to death.
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02-20-2012, 01:36
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I don't have any experience with cz, but I hear they are awesome... And I know Glocks are awesome. I really don't think you can go wrong with that selection, but I would add a Glock 19 to the list. Love my 19 to death.
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Just curious, but if this gun wont be a CCW for me whats the benefits of the G19 over the G17?
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02-20-2012, 02:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Djs9687
Just curious, but if this gun wont be a CCW for me whats the benefits of the G19 over the G17?
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If you never plan to CC, go with the 17, or maybe a 34.
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02-20-2012, 02:17
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Have you had a look at the Smith & Wesson M&P line of guns? They match up very nicely in the category you are looking at and are made in the good ol' US of A.
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02-20-2012, 03:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbarnes85
Like you I am new to glock. Just bought my first one two weeks ago. Got a G27. However I'm not new to buying guns and something I have learned "good" guns don't lose there value that much so if you do buy one of the three and don't like it you can resale it and not lose that much money.
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Sorry to tell you this, but the Obama gun sales run has put so many used firearms on the market, and brought so many new firearms to market, that selling a used firearm means you are going to take a brutal financial beating by doing so.
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02-20-2012, 06:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Djs9687
...ive chosen a couple guns that have really caught my eye...
- CZ 85 B
- Glock 17 Gen 4
- CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom
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Out of the three, my choice would be the CZ75. Your purpose of use is home defense & weekend range time.
IMO the full size CZ75 provides a new shooter the right combination of tools to be able to shoot well. Long sight radius, ergonomic grip, heavy steel construction that helps mitigate recoil.
#2 choice would be the Glock.
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Originally Posted by Djs9687
im a lefty.
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Originally Posted by gruntmedik;18605091[B
]Walther PPQ has mag release and slide release on BOTH sides.[/B]
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^^^ This. I shot a friend's PPQ. I found the grip to be real comfortable. I liked the trigger. The ambi-mag safety levers were odd at first, but I got used to it easy.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...category=43326
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02-20-2012, 07:41
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I love the CZ pistols. If the CZ85 fits you, and the controls work well for your left handedness, buy it.
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02-20-2012, 07:57
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ambi controls (except safeties on 1911's and similar guns) are no big deal- since you are learning from the gorund floor it is just a technique thing.(make sure to learn from a skilled lefty!) I simply use my left index finger to control the mag release and slide catch/release functions. actually works better than if you are right handed since when practiced requires no shift of your grip
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02-20-2012, 08:11
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Southpaw here. Right eye dominant. I learned to shoot right handed rifle and pistol. Works for me.
If I was left eyed dominant I probably would have learned left handed. However like most southpaws, I have learned to adapt quickly.
One of the upsides is that when I do shoot weakhand (which isn't really weakhand) I can operate the gun fine as I am as dexterous if not more so on the left side. I find that my index finger can hit the slide release and magazine release. Making it a moot point for ambidextrous controls.
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02-20-2012, 08:17
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I like all of them, but I think I would be the happiest with the 75. It's all personal preference though. I'm really only into sub compact glocks. To each his own.
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02-20-2012, 08:57
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It is very common for southpaws to shoot a right handed gun, for a long time that was the only option. Really it does not matter much, learn to eject the mag with your finger instead of thumb and that is about it. I never use my slide release anyway except to lock the slide back so I could care less where it is located.
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02-20-2012, 09:02
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Take a look at this list:
http://best9mm.com/
Don't agree w/ everything, but some good choices here.
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02-20-2012, 09:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Djs9687
Hey,
Its tax return time and im in the mood to buy a new/first handgun. Ive been doing alot of research and narrowing down my decision for the right first handgun. A quick little bit of info, ive chosen to go with the 9mm as the caliber, going to be used as weekend shooter/home defense. And im a lefty.
Ok that being said ive chosen a couple guns that have really caught my eye...
- CZ 85 B
- Glock 17 Gen 4
- CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom
Like I said all three in 9mm....The first two guns are ambidextrous which obviously I want. But that leads me to my next question, I really like the CZ Phantom. I have heard nothing but good reviews on it, but to my knowledge its non ambidextrous...so...how common is it for south paws to own non ambidextrous guns? How does that generally work out? Thanks guys.
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Do yourself a favor and get a cz. I would say the 85 over the 75, for one its ambi, and second it just looks a lot better. the sp-01 is a great gun, but they take everything that makes the cz 75 look beautiful(IMO)...and they flush it down the toilet. That rail just hurts my eyes. But I would still choose it over a glock. You can get a glock for cheap any time...but do yourself a favor and make your first handgun not only just as good in use as any other modern handgun...but it will also be somewhat of a keepsake.
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02-20-2012, 09:09
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I would take a hard look at the Walther PPQ.
I'm a lefty and have either owned or shot about everything out there.
This gun is the highest ony list now for plastic pistols.
Some of the ambi guns out there such as the M&P for me the controls are about useless even though it is ambi. I find guns such as a H&K USP with the slide lock/release on the left easier to manipulate than most ambi setups.
I would take the comments here and Aldo go to a large store if not to buy hold and play with as many guns as you can.
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02-20-2012, 10:30
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I shoot left handed and my glock is really easy to operate. you'll adapt no matter what gun you get.
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02-20-2012, 14:30
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Out of the 3 you list, I would pick the Phantom. If it's just going to be a range/hd gun, have you looked at the FNX-9? Ambi saftey, slide release, mag release.
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02-20-2012, 14:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Djs9687
Just curious, but if this gun wont be a CCW for me whats the benefits of the G19 over the G17?
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You can use the G17 mag in the G19, but not vice versa.
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02-20-2012, 15:17
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CZ 85 Combat with the Kadet kit.
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02-20-2012, 15:22
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I own a Glock 19 , Walther P99 , P5, Sig 228 , cz 85 combat, HK p7 ,1911 , and shot the m9 Hk USP9 , Glock 17 ,22
all left handed- as long as you practice with it you should have no problem shooting left handed
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He's actually wrong, after 8-9 shots with a 9mm bullet, you actually get a text on your phone saying "You are being shot at by a 9mm, don't worry, just ignore him and walk away."
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02-20-2012, 16:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 12131
You can use the G17 mag in the G19, but not vice versa.
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Add to that fact that some people simply prefer the slightly smaller size of the 19.
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