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03-02-2012, 09:10
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Slacked jawed
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Pocket carry 9mm
I have been looking to buy a new 9mm after I traded away my Kel Tec Pf9 due to mag release issue when I carried IWB and other issues.
I'm looking to also try to carry this new 9mm inside my front pocket. I never really tried it with the PF9.
Currently I'm looking at the Ruger LC9, the Kahr CM9, and the Beretta Nano, and I'm looking at the Remora clipless holsters that can go IWB or used as a pocket holster. Can any of those guns be comfortably carried in the front pocket.
I'm 6'2" and middle aged, so no skinny jeans.
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03-02-2012, 09:16
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FNG
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Sig has a 9mm version of the P238 coming out soon. I've shot the P238 and it's a sweet little gun so if the 9mm version follows in its footsteps it should be as well. I've only held LC9 never actually shot it but it felt pretty good in my hand. And the NANO has some great reviews. Personally I'm waiting for the Sig to come out before I make the pocket carry purchase
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03-02-2012, 09:28
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Try the G19 or the smaller Glock 9mms.
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03-02-2012, 09:32
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The Glock is to big for pocket carry, I am interested in the Sig, have not seen one yet.
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03-02-2012, 10:53
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Maybe these pics will help. G26, PM9, 642, LCP.
Some of these are much smaller than the others
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03-02-2012, 11:55
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If you want to pocket carry a 9mm, you need big pockets. My LC9 doesn't fit in jeans pockets. It will fit in my dress pants pocket, and its bulky. If you want to pocket carry, you need a 380. I had a Ruger LCP for pocket carry and traded it for credit on an LC9. I have a Remora for the LC9 that works well IWB and in the pocket.
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03-02-2012, 13:06
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I believe that the Rohrbaugh R9s is the smallest and lightest 9mm pistol. It is very well made and mine has never had a malfunction. I find that I carry my R9s much more than anything else. I find that the other recommendations pale in comparison.
http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/
RJ
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03-02-2012, 13:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJ's Guns
I believe that the Rohrbaugh R9s is the smallest and lightest 9mm pistol. It is very well made and mine has never had a malfunction. I find that I carry my R9s much more than anything else. I find that the other recommendations pale in comparison.
http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/
RJ
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So you carry it often, but do you shoot it often? How reliable has yours been?
If you search this forum, you will find about a dozen threads on the R9. The consensus seems to be that they are punishing to shoot, require a frequent recoil spring change, and are finicky about ammo selection and jam frequently. Also can't fire +P ammo.
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03-02-2012, 13:20
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you savvy?
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i like my LC9 but it is not the best size for pocket carry in my opinion. the PM9 might be about as big as you can comfortably go. the 642 is good also, even though it has the cylinder buldge, the lack of a slide means the gun stops short and at a nice angle to allow it to sit in the pocket well when seated.
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03-02-2012, 14:04
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Slacked jawed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ithaca_deerslayer
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Outstanding as always Ithaca.
Looking at the mousegun chart, the the PM9 does look a little smaller in all the right place, compared to the LC9. Like Cowboywannabe said, I might be able to squeeze it.
http://mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf
For the record, I have a Kel Tec P3AT, a P32, a Beretta bobcat and a NAA mini revolver, so if I need smaller, I have smaller. I just want a 9mm that can do pocket duty.
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03-02-2012, 14:38
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BB, to answer your question....yes you can pocket carry a PM/CM9 I do most summer days and when dress requires in more formal occasions. I use the Kahr Pocket holster.
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03-02-2012, 17:38
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Kimber Solo
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03-02-2012, 17:38
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I vote for the one on the left:
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03-02-2012, 17:49
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LC9 a bit big and heavy for pocket carry but great for IWB.
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03-02-2012, 17:51
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I recently picked up a Nano. Haven't brought it to the range yet, but I've really grown to love the feel of it in the hand. In the past I've owned a Kel-Tec PF-9 and Kahr PM40 and neither ever really felt good to me.
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03-02-2012, 17:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scubasteve23323
So you carry it often, but do you shoot it often? How reliable has yours been?
If you search this forum, you will find about a dozen threads on the R9. The consensus seems to be that they are punishing to shoot, require a frequent recoil spring change, and are finicky about ammo selection and jam frequently. Also can't fire +P ammo.
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I shoot my R9s 1 or 2 times per month (20 - 50 rounds). I do not remember when I bought it but my best guess is 6-8 years ago.
I am not recoil sensitive, so I do not find it punishing to shoot. According to my PACT timer, follow-up shots with "A hits (which if memory serves me correctly is a 4" x 9" target) at 15 feet run .15 - .25 sec, but then I am old (61 years old).
I have not made it a point to shoot every brand and configuration of 9mm and only shoot premium grade ammo through it, but I have not had any proplems, Specifically, I have not had any failures to feed, failures to fire or failures to eject. But I have no doubt, that with most auto loaders, having a limp wrist would probably cause a problem.
I change the recoil spring about every 200 - 250 rounds. That really is not a problem for me.
I do not shoot +P ammo in any of my small, light weight handguns.
I find that most critics of the Rohrbaugh have never owned one and can not afford one, so they are critical of the pistol so as to make themselves feel better about not having one. That also helps to make them feel more satisfied about what they do have and what they can afford, but that is just my personal opinion and others may differ.
I have reason to believe that some of the people on the internet that criticize a Rohrbaugh are lying about having one, as everyone that I know that has one has nothing but praise and wonderful things to say about their Rohrbaugh.
RJ
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03-02-2012, 19:24
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If I were you I'd wait for the Sig 939 to come out (9mm version of the 238).
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03-02-2012, 20:00
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If those picture above helped, here are their fully loaded weights, too, according to my own measurements
26 with 10+1 = 26 oz, 124gr (fps not measured, guess 1090 or more)
PM9 with 6+1 = 20 oz, 124gr 1090 fps
642 with 5 = 17 oz, 158gr 795 fps
LCP with 6+1= 12 oz, 90gr 925 fps
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03-02-2012, 21:16
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Boberg xr9s.
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03-03-2012, 14:42
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Glockalfeliac
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I like the Kahr PM9/CM9 for IWB carry or pocket carry in large cargo pockets. For smaller pockets or dress slacks the Kahr P380 or Ruger LCP is a good choice (the Kahr is a better gun in every way but cost). The heavier 9mm will flop around in a loose pocket more than the lighter .380.
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03-03-2012, 15:04
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you savvy?
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the rohrbaugh 9mm would seem to be the balance between size and power alright. but id worry about the recoil.
im not recoil sensitive, but my LWS32 beats the hell out of my trigger finger after 20 or so rounds. the KT and LCP .380s i had werent that bad to shoot but werent that easy to shoot well because theyre so small. id hate to spend $1,200.00 on the R9 and find isnt isnt my cup-o-tea then have to try to sell it without taking a beating worse than it gave me at the range.
the problem for many is these boutique guns arent available for test fire before you buy. ive never seen one at a range for rent.
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03-03-2012, 17:20
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As time goes by I have arrived at the conclusion that I wouldn't "pocket carry" any pistol with a round in the chamber unless it was in a holster.
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Last edited by unit1069; 03-03-2012 at 17:21..
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03-03-2012, 17:33
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Glockalfeliac
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unit1069
As time goes by I have arrived at the conclusion that I wouldn't "pocket carry" any pistol with a round in the chamber unless it was in a holster.
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I agree, I use a pocket holster that completely covers the trigger.
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03-03-2012, 19:07
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The only pocket 9 I know to be close to a pocket .380 in size is the Kimber Solo. It's only a tad thicker then a P238 but the same height and length. The new 938 is a tad thicker in the slide over the 238 plus a little longer in the slide & muzzle. Not going to say for sure if it's pocketable until I see one in person.
My P238 & Solo
P238 & P938 (Google images)
Last edited by Nakanokalronin; 03-03-2012 at 19:08..
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