Considering Para?

zhix · 03-07-2012, 10:39

For anyone who still needs convincing, this is interesting.

http://www.bbb.org/charlotte/busines...ille-nc-232768

I searched several known gun companies, some others had more complaints than I would expect, but most had a much better rating.

southernshooter · 03-07-2012, 11:26

Yes, I find it weird when a product just barely misses being great.
I think they are made from quality materials.
The seem to have intended to make a quality product.
Some people report that theirs has been great.
Somehow, it seems to be that quality control is where their issues stem from.
Also, from the o.p., there are business etiquette problems also.

bac1023 · 03-07-2012, 22:25

Para is well below average, in my opinion.

***faawrenchbndr*** · 03-07-2012, 23:09

I would almost buy a Taurus before a Para.

bac1023 · 03-08-2012, 05:27

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Originally Posted by southernshooter

Yes, I find it weird when a product just barely misses being great.

Man, you give them too much credit.

Rinspeed · 03-08-2012, 07:41

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Originally Posted by southernshooter

I think they are made from quality materials.

I think Para is the king of marginally made cast parts.

***Travclem*** · 03-08-2012, 09:11

I had a Para SSP "Gun Rights" (not a cheap model) and it was a terrible pistol. I got it on trade and traded it in a week later on a Springfield Loaded. It was less than reliable and not very accurate. The slide stop had to be replaced before it would shoot 2 consecutive rounds without locking the slide. Not a fan of cast slides and frames.

SigFTW · 03-08-2012, 10:43

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Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

I would almost buy a Taurus before a Para.

That sums it up for me.

crazymoose · 03-08-2012, 12:32

I've heard of more slide peening issues from Para than just about all the other brands combined.

venenoindy · 03-08-2012, 13:43

Para and Taurus are two comapanys I would not buy from.

southernshooter · 03-09-2012, 17:05

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Originally Posted by bac1023

Man, you give them too much credit.

I don't have one. You probably do.

tedwhite · 03-11-2012, 19:52

I have a Hawg 7, which is quite similar in size to an "officers" model - 3 1/2" "match" barrel, all black with slim grips. It's all steel; the slide is cast but the frame is apparently forged. It's a handsome pistol and shoots well. The local dealer ordered seven last month, sold them all, and tells me the purchasers have all given positive feedback.

Perhaps this is a newer, more reliable model? I don't know when the Hawg 7 was first released.

glock2740 · 03-11-2012, 20:01

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Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

I would almost buy a Taurus before a Para.

Sad but true. I've owned a PT1911. Never owned a Para. I will say that my PT1911 was a pretty decent shooter and was 100% reliable.

tedwhite · 03-11-2012, 20:21

I also had a PT1911 and carried it as a duty weapon. It worked without a hitch.

bac1023 · 03-11-2012, 20:44

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Originally Posted by southernshooter

I don't have one. You probably do.

bac1023 · 03-11-2012, 20:45

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Originally Posted by tedwhite

I also had a PT1911 and carried it as a duty weapon. It worked without a hitch.

Mine works great as well. It just not what I would call a quality 1911.

glock2740 · 03-11-2012, 20:50

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Originally Posted by bac1023

Mine works great as well. It just not what I would call a quality 1911.

Ditto. And by a long shot I might add.

**Javelin** · 03-11-2012, 20:57

Quality & Para Ordinance in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

GVFlyer · 03-11-2012, 21:39

A Para can only be reliably used as a (oddly shaped) paper weight.

TN.Frank · 03-11-2012, 22:22

I had a Llama Mini-Max that was pretty much a clone of the Para P12, it was a chunky little thing. Much prefer the single stack 1911a1's. If you want a double stack 45acp look into a Beretta PX4 or H&K USP. JMHO, YMMV.

Jwickersham · 03-14-2012, 16:43

I've got a P14-45 Limited with close to 30,000 rounds through it (shooting USPSA) and when I do my part, it does it's part. I also got a P18-9 built into a .38 super open gun that runs great and probably has well over 30,000 rounds through it (shooting USPSA and Steel)

RYT 2BER · 03-14-2012, 18:34

Why don't companies with terrible reputations like Para, do more to improve it. These times may ultimately be the greatest time for gun sales, and many companies are missing the wave due to marginal products....

I just never get it..

2bgop · 03-14-2012, 18:39

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Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

I would almost buy a Taurus before a Para.

This. I had one and it was a total pile of crap.

Wyoming · 03-14-2012, 19:24

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Originally Posted by Rinspeed

I think Para is the king of marginally made cast parts.

If it was marginal it would have held. People buy guns to shoot not to look at!

SauerChoi · 03-16-2012, 19:09

Only Para I've owned was the Para GI Expert. The most base model you can get. I got it because it was so cheap and I wanted to learn "smithing" on it.

Worst trigger ever on any gun I've fired. I didn't expect much from the trigger but man it was a let down to say the least. mushy mushy mushy bang was all I got and could not figure out where the breaking point is...