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Old 08-17-2014, 17:24   #1
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Reloading Nickel Plated Brass

I'm curious what everyone's experience is with reloading nickel plated brass? Never used it before myself?
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Old 08-17-2014, 17:51   #2
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I'm curious what everyone's experience is with reloading nickel plated brass? Never used it before myself?
In some calibers I get roughly equivalent life as normal brass cases, especially with target velocities and match chambers.

In calibers like 10mm, especially when you are running it hot in a stock Glock chamber, they don't last as well..
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Old 08-17-2014, 17:53   #3
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Ok. That was what I had heard was that they don't last quite as long and that they are harder on the dies.
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Old 08-17-2014, 18:29   #4
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They seem to chamber a little easier (slicker).
If reloaded to standard pressure the usually last about as long as regular brass.
They do not seem to last as long when reloaded to max.
Just my opinion.
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Old 08-17-2014, 20:47   #5
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Watch for case hardening. Neck tension can be an issue. Otherwise, load 'em until they are lost or until they split.
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Old 08-18-2014, 05:30   #6
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What am I looking for when you say "case hardening"?
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Old 08-18-2014, 13:53   #7
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What am I looking for when you say "case hardening"?
I hope I am not putting words in Taters mouth, but I think he was referring to the cases work hardening. That is as you cycle from expansion (when fired) to sizing, you get work hardening. Word hardening of the case causes failures (cracks/splits) but also makes the brass more springy, so when you size the case, it tends to spring back more and neck tension can suffer, sometimes to the point (depending on how small your sizing ring) that the bullet won't be held tightly and setback can occur when it gets pushed against the feed ramp during feed.

While setback is less of a critical element when using the slower powders in heavy 10mm loads (usually with fuller cases that will stop the bullet from going too far back into the case). But in any case, if you do get bullet setback, pressures will rise somewhat, regardless of how slow the powder.
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Old 08-18-2014, 22:08   #8
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I prefer the nickel starline 10mm brass for two reasons: it is easier to find on the floor and they seem to last as good or better than standard brass for me. My loads are 1200 FPS.
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I hope I am not putting words in Taters mouth, but I think he was referring to the cases work hardening. That is as you cycle from expansion (when fired) to sizing, you get work hardening. Word hardening of the case causes failures (cracks/splits) but also makes the brass more springy, so when you size the case, it tends to spring back more and neck tension can suffer, sometimes to the point (depending on how small your sizing ring) that the bullet won't be held tightly and setback can occur when it gets pushed against the feed ramp during feed.

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Yep. Exactly what I was alluding to. Nicely stated.
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Old 08-21-2014, 18:01   #10
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Interesting question as I think most reloaders don't think there is any difference. I have noticed higher pressures (and corresponding higher velocities) in nickel cases using the exact same power, charge, bullet, crimp, etc. in my 10mms. The nickel case seems to be a little stiffer and holds the bullet tighter, creating the higher pressure.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:27   #11
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Remington, Double Tap, and Starline. Which is best?

In need of 1000 and Starline is out but Mike has some DT on his site. Any differences?




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Old 09-05-2014, 15:53   #12
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There is NO difference at all! Reload ALL brass until failure!
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Old 09-05-2014, 17:25   #13
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There is NO difference at all! Reload ALL brass until failure!
I think there is definitely a difference in brass, especially nickel plated which is what the OP was asking about.

Starline brass (to me) seems to be harder. Hornady brass seems to be softer. The difference might not be enough to change visible pressures indicators like flattened primers and Glock smileys, but a chronograph will notice the difference.
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Remington, Double Tap, and Starline. Which is best?

In need of 1000 and Starline is out but Mike has some DT on his site. Any differences?
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I believe Starline makes DT's brass or at least they used to.
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Old 09-06-2014, 16:07   #15
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I believe Starline makes DT's brass or at least they used to.
Someone at DT (Not Mike McNett) told me this on the phone a long time ago. They have it made for them by Starline with DT's name stamped on it, but the head stamp is supposedly the only difference. But we were talking about the nickle plated 10MM though, so I don't know squat about the other stuff DT makes.
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Someone at DT (Not Mike McNett) told me this on the phone a long time ago. They have it made for them by Starline with DT's name stamped on it, but the head stamp is supposedly the only difference. But we were talking about the nickle plated 10MM though, so I don't know squat about the other stuff DT makes.
Yep. IIRC it has the exact markings of Starline but the DT
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I prefer starline. I will only use max loads 2 or 3 times with the same brass. I primarily use nickel Plated brass for carry ammunition because of corrosion resistance, although i shoot nothing but carry loadings. I am a firm believer in practicing with loads that have the same power as my carry loads. I resize then use a lee bulge buster and any case that shows dents, flattened head stamps or smiles hits the recycle bin. Starline nickel brass and their regular brass seems to be the most reliable and can get several loadings out of them. I buy the starline new and will only reload brass i have fired. My new G20 Gen 4 seems to have more case support than my previous 20sf. I don't load nuclear but won't hesitate to work up to max book loads. With Power Pistol 10.0gr CCI350 primers and 165gr Golden Sabers i get 1395ft/sec with OEM 4.6 inch barrel 712ft/lbs energy. Adequate SD round> The Bonded Golden sabers hold together well. Don't have any picture but expands to close to .90 of an inch.
For practice rounds I use 165gr Montana Golds.
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