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Old 03-18-2012, 16:08   #1
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Movie "The Grey"

Caught it today - anybody seent it? About seven survivors of a plane crash in wild alaska, having to deal not only with the inevitable weather issues, but also a wolf pack that's either actively hunting, or perhaps just territorial.

It's one of those movies that's hard to discuss much - much less really dissect - without risking substantial spoilers, so I won't say much at this point other than:

A - No it's not a training film; so let's get that out of the way early...

B - Imo it's one of those rare films that manages better than most to pull off the emotional, internal issues of the characters, and

C - I was surprised how much I liked it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1601913/


Will probably buy it eventually.
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Old 03-18-2012, 19:35   #2
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Caught it today - anybody seent it? About seven survivors of a plane crash in wild alaska, having to deal not only with the inevitable weather issues, but also a wolf pack that's either actively hunting, or perhaps just territorial.

It's one of those movies that's hard to discuss much - much less really dissect - without risking substantial spoilers, so I won't say much at this point other than:

A - No it's not a training film; so let's get that out of the way early...

B - Imo it's one of those rare films that manages better than most to pull off the emotional, internal issues of the characters, and

C - I was surprised how much I liked it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1601913/


Will probably buy it eventually.

I watched it when it 1st came out..

..I liked it.

Several things I would have done differently..

..& I sure you would have also.


BTW...sent you a PM at PP.
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Old 03-18-2012, 20:35   #3
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i really want to see that.
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Old 03-19-2012, 00:29   #4
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terrible movie.



That said, I wish that wolves were that bold/stupid. It'd make hunting them that much easier.




Pretty much everything about the movie was wrong. Leaving the airframe, fighting wolves etc. GAY.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:06   #5
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I went and saw it opening weekend. It's a movie and therefore entertainment. If you are looking to get any good info for S&P out of it you are better off watching just about anything else.

I really enjoyed Liam's movies until that 'movie'
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Old 03-19-2012, 15:12   #6
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terrible movie.



That said, I wish that wolves were that bold/stupid. It'd make hunting them that much easier.




Pretty much everything about the movie was wrong. Leaving the airframe, fighting wolves etc. GAY.
Curious for specifics. I'm 100% with you about NOT leaving the downed aircraft. They had some level of shelter from both the elements and the animals, they had fuel for fires, they had the most-visible thing around for rescuers to zero in on once the storm subsided... all kind of reasons to NOT leave the plane; except it would have probably made for a more boring story. (Valid lesson there imo - unlike in a movie, in an emergency situation "boring" can be a good thing.)

I don't know wolves. Ask me about hillbillies, alarm systems & pistol reloading all day, but I don't know wolves; at least not the quadrupedal kind. Seems reasonable that they might be overly aggressive/protective near their den area, but that's total assumption on my part, based only on other animals I'm more familiar with.


I didn't much care about seeing it as I was so disappointed with "Unknown". ("Taken", I liked.) A big part of my liking for it was probably the fact that nobody died a total prick - there was either some innate decency or some degree of redemption for all of them before their time was up. Makes it somewhat of a 'feel good' movie to me I guess, irrespective of how things ultimately turned out. That's what I was getting at in the OP, about the internal/emotional issues; they were done better - or maybe just more to my liking - than in most movies.

Absolutely not a movie I'd steer people to for "how to handle a crisis"; definitely more of a "don't do this" lesson a la "The Trigger Effect".

Or for that matter, like "Man vs. Wild".
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..I really enjoyed Liam's movies until that 'movie'
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Old 03-19-2012, 15:17   #8
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It's easy to rip up these Hollywood movies with our own personal experiences but my point is these movies are made for the masses, sheeple, not most of us here.

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Old 03-19-2012, 15:36   #9
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I think it was ok, but yes, they make some bad decisions.

Alive (1993) needs a remake.
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Old 03-19-2012, 18:09   #10
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Not bad if you realize it's just a movie for general entertainment purposes.

When I saw it, Liam Neeson seemed to be in the previews for every other movie too.

I think the educational aspect can be summed up by doing the exact opposite of almost all the stuff that they did.
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Old 03-19-2012, 18:12   #11
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I saw it but did not enjoy it. I usually like Liam Neeson movies, so I was a bit disappointed. I really didn't like the way it ended.

That being said, I hope everyone else enjoys it.
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Old 03-19-2012, 19:11   #12
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... unlike in a movie, in an emergency situation "boring" can be a good thing...
ive had this conversation with my brother about combat tours as well, he said hes bored and i reminded him of how nasty life can be when you dont have the time to be bored.
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Old 03-19-2012, 20:39   #13
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I don't know wolves. Ask me about hillbillies, alarm systems & pistol reloading all day, but I don't know wolves; at least not the quadrupedal kind. Seems reasonable that they might be overly aggressive/protective near their den area, but that's total assumption on my part, based only on other animals I'm more familiar with.


Wolves, especially in AK where they're hunted hard, are skittish around people. They wouldn't be above scavenging from the crash, and maybe going after a wounded and dying guy. But they wouldn't chase and attack the group.
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?????

Being Hollywood they made up lots of facts that people take for gospel truth.

There are no oil-men that just sit around and pick off attacking wolves.

Wolves do not openly attack men, especially not a group of men.

The shotshell sticks were laughable.

Not suffering hypothermia within minutes of going for a swim in alaska?

As my buddy put it, it was a bad horror flick that followed the genre to a "T". Anyone that explained their backstory or showed emotion were the next ones to get it. All they did was wait for the next person to be picked off.

Don't get me wrong, I can shut off my brain and enjoy a movie for entertainment but this was just bad. I expected more which is why I was disappointed.

It's pretty close to "Twister" for unbelievably stupid...but that one had Bill Paxton in it so you KNEW it was going to be a complete farse...
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:24   #15
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On a purely entertainment level, I enjoyed it until the very last scene. That ruined the entire movie for me. I hope they release an alternate ending on DVD to make up for their horrible ending in theaters.
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It's easy to rip up these Hollywood movies with our own personal experiences but my point is these movies are made for the masses, sheeple, not most of us here.
Exactly..its only entertainment not a training video.
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Old 03-25-2012, 18:22   #17
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On the flipside of the comments..

"Wolves will not attack a group of men"...

..keep in mind wild animals (including wolves) have done just that throughout history.


I vividly remember the stories of predatory wolves vs. westward bound settlers, miners & explorers..

..& the reputation they received for being cunning & dangerous predators.


Unusually harsh winters, depredation of normal food sources, territorial trespassing, disease and/or other factors can create a "perfect storm" of conditions that can place man squarely on the menu!

A good example of the above is the incident of the Tsavo Maneaters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsavo_maneaters

..the basis of the movie "The Ghost and the Darkness"!


Even more bizarre is this story... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4489792.stm

Russian squirrel pack 'kills dog'

IIRC....the dog that was attacked, killed, eviscerated & partially eaten was a large Rottweiler!


Another point to consider..

One of my concerns is what will transpire (if ever a TEOTWAWKI Event) is the threat of millions upon millions of domesticated Fidos & Spots turned out of their pampered homes due to lack of food for them.

In short order....many will go feral & combine into Large Predatory Packs ...with no fear of man..

..and likely their most recent meals will have been human corpses..

...& when those run out..

..I would expect them to go for "fresher sources"!


In the past...I infrequently encountered feral packs (former hunting dogs) in the deep woods...

..they were starving, cunning & dangerous!

Glad I was armed.....CNS shots made the difference!


Preparedness transcends... "what currently is"..

"What was" & "what can be" is more relevant...IMO!




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Old 03-26-2012, 10:09   #18
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If you saw the trailer, you saw the movie.

The ending was a real dick move on the behalf of the director.
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Old 03-26-2012, 22:08   #19
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I can't actually think of any wolf attacks on groups of men in North America. Hell, its rare that a pack will attack even a lone man.


Now in Europe, should SHTF, you might have a bigger issue, as the wolves there have consistently been man-killers and man eaters, but not here.
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