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Old 03-28-2012, 19:44   #26
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P238 is the best .380 pocket pistol I've ever owned, fired, or handled, hands down.
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Old 03-28-2012, 20:52   #27
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I guess I should have mentioned price. I'm looking at $400 or less here. I thought about the slim 9, I just don't know how much capacity and size trade off I'd have.
I was concerned about Taurus QC. My Slim 9 has been flawless with 115gr. WM's cheapest to Gold Dot +P and various 147gr. rounds. Right front pocket in a DeSantis Nemisis.

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Old 03-28-2012, 21:17   #28
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I use the bodyguard 380 as my BUG. Like it a lot more than I thought I would....really good gun. 100% reliable. Very comfortable. Only major critique is that the trigger sucks.
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:23   #29
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Some guys have before mentioned success with some newer black plastic Walther out there in .380. I forget the model but it is almost G26 size and supposedly has soft recoil.

Wish I had one, so as to suggest to women shooters.
It is the Walther PK380. I have one and it is a reliable and accurate little pistol.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:27   #30
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I like the PK380 because I had a P22 that I loved (although it was not reliable and cheaply made). I think the PK might be a tad large for what I want though....

Lots of options. I hadn't really considered a Mak. Is it reliable enough?
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:34   #31
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As LEO I'm sure that you know pistols and have a reason for looking at 380. With all the recent releases (and the classics) of small / mid sized 9s that's what I'd look at. I'm a Kahr fan personally but many options have been mentioned in both 380 and 9.
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Old 03-29-2012, 18:44   #32
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Mak is a fine weapon. Rock solid.
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Old 03-29-2012, 18:49   #33
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Old 03-29-2012, 18:56   #34
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May not wanna hear this and this is just an opinion, but if you are going bigger than the LCP go 9mm! I love my Sig 290!!!
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:05   #35
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I was always a little interested with the S&W bodyguard. Its as small as the Kel Tec and Ruger LCP , but it seems to be better built. Unfortunately S&W made that laser standard and ruined it. Now its a pocket gun with added weight and something that you need to find a special holster for. The bodyguard without the laser would probably be a sweet pocket gun.

The Sig 238 is a sweet little 1911 pocket gun, if you like 1911s. Still like others have said if you go the 238, you are talking something the same weight and dimensions as a Kahr CM9 or other 9mm pocket gun.

If you just want to stick with .380 guns, that are a little bigger than a pocket gun, there is the Walther PPK, The Walther PK380, and the Bersa Thunder. Taurus Makes a Mil Pro in .380 but I don't know how reliable it is.

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:28   #36
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Originally Posted by NeverMore1701 Click the image to open in full size.
P238 is the best .380 pocket pistol I've ever owned, fired, or handled, hands down.

+2 I have one for each pocket and can hardly wait for the P938 to be released.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:46   #37
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P238 is the best .380 pocket pistol I've ever owned, fired, or handled, hands down.
I agree...I've got the SIG P238HD model, and while slightly heavier compared to polymer .380 pistols, it is an excellent pocket pistol that shoots well. I trust my life and my family's lives with it when it's being carried.

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Old 04-02-2012, 08:58   #38
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If I'm not mistaken, isn't your duty weapon a 9mm? Why not go for one of the compact 9's, like others have said? The SIG P290 looks good, as do the LC9 and others of that ilk. I think you'd be happier, and better served, with a 9mm over a .380. Just my personal opinion, though.
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Old 04-02-2012, 19:52   #39
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A friend bought a Bersa .380 and really likes it. While I wasn't much a Kahr guy in the past I'd look at the CW9.Good luck in your search. YMMV.tom.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:49   #40
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If I'm not mistaken, isn't your duty weapon a 9mm? Why not go for one of the compact 9's, like others have said? The SIG P290 looks good, as do the LC9 and others of that ilk. I think you'd be happier, and better served, with a 9mm over a .380. Just my personal opinion, though.
That is the quandary with .380 pocket guns and 9mm pocket guns. It some point you get a nice solid .380 pocket gun like the Sig 238, and its pretty darn close to the size, weight and dimension of some micro 9mm pocket guns like the Kimber Solo and the Kahr PM9/CM9. At that point its a toss up.

For the record, the Sig290 at first seemed promising in length and width, its a 1.10" thick , 25 ounce brick.

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Old 04-03-2012, 08:54   #41
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My duty weapon is a .40 Glock.

As for 9mm, I'm certainly not against it, I just want to do some pocket carry.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:03   #42
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I've been wanting a new .380 for every day carry and as a backup to my duty weapon. I do not care for the size of the LCP, P3AT, or Diamondback. I need something a bit bigger but still light. I currently toss a Bryco in my pocket (long story, I don't like it either) and it's just a tad too small and way too heavy. I'm interested in the S&W BodyGuard and while I don't like the looks, I'm interested in the Bersa Thunder. Both are around the same price. Anyone have a recommendation?
If I wanted something a little bigger than a Kel Tec, I'd be looking at Walther PPK and PPK/S, Sigs or some of the old Colt .380's. Seems like a recently heard that Colt has reissued the Mustang, so I'd definitely look at that.
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If I wanted something a little bigger than a Kel Tec, I'd be looking at Walther PPK and PPK/S, Sigs or some of the old Colt .380's. Seems like a recently heard that Colt has reissued the Mustang, so I'd definitely look at that.
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The Sig is cheaper and has night sights.
I'm just confirming that it does in fact exist.
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Old 04-03-2012, 13:16   #46
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Again, we are on a pretty tight budget. I appreciate all the replies but $300-$400 is about the max here.

My FIL has a Colt .380 and it's a neat little gun.
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Again, we are on a pretty tight budget. I appreciate all the replies but $300-$400 is about the max here.

My FIL has a Colt .380 and it's a neat little gun.
You said you don't like the LCP; what about the LC9?

http://www.budspolicesupply.com/cata...ducts_id/10221

$337 at Buds on the LE side.
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You said you don't like the LCP; what about the LC9?

http://www.budspolicesupply.com/cata...ducts_id/10221

$337 at Buds on the LE side.
Not opposed to it. Aesthetically it's not very pleasing but this is a utility piece not a show piece. Are they more reliable than the LCPs were when they first came out?
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Not opposed to it. Aesthetically it's not very pleasing but this is a utility piece not a show piece. Are they more reliable than the LCPs were when they first came out?
I honestly don't know; I don't own one and haven't shot one. I'm pretty sure some of the guys in CT have them, though.
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Old 04-03-2012, 13:33   #50
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I have a Sig P238 and would recommend it. It's light, but very shootable. It's single action trigger and easy to see sights make it easy to hit stuff, even at 25 yards.
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