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Old 04-01-2012, 04:54   #1
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Al Sharpton now Obama's Running Mate.

Al Sharpton now Obama's Running Mate.

Here's Willie Horton...who became George Dukakis's running mate.

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Old 04-01-2012, 05:30   #2
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Check on Sharpton on Wikipedia - I had no idea he was involved in some of the stuff he has been. Just the Bernard Goetz thing is enough for me to hate him, but it goes way beyond that.
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And Romney's running mate is John Kerry.. he needed to find someone that was less of a flip flopper.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:31   #4
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That got me to thinking.

John Kerry was hammered despite the fact he actually served in Vietnam.

How will Republicans treat Romney, a guy that got deferments before he dropped out of school and then got more deferments so he could go teach Mormonism in France.

I can't wait for the spin on this one.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:37   #5
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Where's Jerome Corsi? When will his next best seller be on the bookshelves? Perhaps it will be titled: Unfit for Hypocrisy: The Coming Right Wing Mental Meltdown.
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That got me to thinking.

John Kerry was hammered despite the fact he actually served in Vietnam.

How will Republicans treat Romney, a guy that got deferments before he dropped out of school and then got more deferments so he could go teach Mormonism in France.

I can't wait for the spin on this one.
Our last 3 presidents have had their service or lack of it questioned and criticized. Hopefully, that isn't an indication of a trend (people preferring non-military presidents).

Before them, we hadn't had a president without military service since FDR in WW II (ironically, we had presidents with no military service during both world wars).
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:22   #7
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12smile - I call BS. That's not even funny as a joke and it is not presented as one either. Prove it or retract please.
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That got me to thinking.

John Kerry was hammered despite the fact he actually served in Vietnam.

How will Republicans treat Romney, a guy that got deferments before he dropped out of school and then got more deferments so he could go teach Mormonism in France.

I can't wait for the spin on this one.

John Kerry was hammered for inflating his service with demonstrably false acts of "heroism," and for comparing our troops to the hordes of Genghis Khan in a congressional hearing.

Sounds like you're the one that's into spinning.


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Old 04-01-2012, 10:07   #9
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12smile - I call BS. That's not even funny as a joke and it is not presented as one either. Prove it or retract please.
You got me...he'll really be Secretary of Hate.

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John Kerry was hammered for inflating his service with demonstrably false acts of "heroism," and for comparing our troops to the hordes of Genghis Khan in a congressional hearing.

Sounds like you're the one that's into spinning. .


And his tour only lasted three months if I remember right.
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And his tour only lasted three months if I remember right.
And most of that three months was spent writing himself medals.
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12smile - I call BS. That's not even funny as a joke and it is not presented as one either. Prove it or retract please.
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It's April fools joke

Clearly, even an April Fool's joke can generate a lively discussion here...


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Where's Jerome Corsi? When will his next best seller be on the bookshelves? Perhaps it will be titled: Unfit for Hypocrisy: The Coming Right Wing Mental Meltdown.
Jerome Corsi? Quick, name the other Navy man who was/is such a worthless POS that more than 100 fellow officers and enlisted men are willing to sign a letter calling him out for the POS that he is.

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Senator Kerry,

We write from our common heritage as veterans of duty aboard Swift Boats in the Vietnam War. Indeed, you should note that a substantial number of those men who served directly with you during your four month tour in Vietnam have signed this letter.

It is our collective judgment that, upon your return from Vietnam, you grossly and knowingly distorted the conduct of the American soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen of that war (including a betrayal of many of us, without regard for the danger your actions caused us). Further, we believe that you have withheld and/or distorted material facts as to your own conduct in this war.

We believe you continue this conduct today, albeit by changing from an anti-war to a "war hero" status. You now seek to clad yourself in the very medals that you disdainfully threw away in the early years of your political career. In the process, we believe you continue a deception as to your own conduct through such tactics as the disclosure of only carefully screened portions of your military records. Both then and now, we have concluded that you have deceived the public, and in the process have betrayed honorable men, to further your personal political goals.

Your conduct is such as to raise substantive concerns as to your honesty and your ability to serve, as you currently seek, as Commander-in-Chief of the military services.

It is vital that the American public have as much information as possible about candidates for President of the United States. In various ways, you have rightly called upon President Bush to be fully accountable and to provide full disclosure. In the same spirit, now that you are the presumptive nominee of your Party, we believe it is incumbent upon you to make your total military record open to the American people.

Specifically, we the undersigned formally request that you authorize the Department of the Navy to independently release your military records (through your execution of Standard Form 180), complete and unaltered, including your military medical records. Further, we call upon you to correct the misconceptions your campaign seeks to create as to your conduct while in Vietnam. Permit the American public the opportunity to assess your military performance upon the record, and not upon campaign rhetoric.

Senator Kerry, we were there. We know the truth. We have been silent long enough. The stakes are too great, not only for America in general but, most importantly, for those who have followed us into service in Iraq and Afghanistan. We call upon you to provide a full, accurate accounting of your conduct in Vietnam.

Respectfully,

Daniel Aguilar, OSC, USNR-R
Pat Alexander
Roy Alexander*
Kenneth J. Andrews, Lt.*
Arturo Arias, QM2, USN (Ret.)
Daniel V. Armstrong, BM2*
Douglas Armstrong, Capt., USN (Ret.)
Harry Ball, Cdr., USN (Ret.)
Ray Lewis Ballew*
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Richard Beers*
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Herb Blume, Lt.
Barry Bogart, EN2*
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Benny Booth
David Borden*
Carl Bowman
Vern Boyd*
David M. Bradley, LCdr.*
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Donald Brown, RD3
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Michael C. Burton
Tom Burton
Joe Cahill, Jr., Lt.*
Jack L. Carlson, Lt., USNR*
James Carter
Billy Carwile, EN3*
Virgil Chambers, RD3
Jack Chenoweth, Capt., USNR, (Ret.)*
William Colgan, RD3*
Bill Collins*
Daniel K. Corbett, Lt., USNR*
James M. Corrigan, QM3*
Terry Cosstello, Capt., USN (Ret.)*
Tom Costarino
Toi Dang, GM3
John H. Davis, Lt.*
William K. Daybert,Cdr.*
James Deal*
Richard Dodson, Capt., USN (Ret.)
John Dooley, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
Dale Duffield, CWO USN (Ret.)*
Robert G. Elder, Lt.*
George M. Elliott, Capt. USNR (Ret.)*
Bill Eshelman
Claude Farmer, Cdr., USNR (Ret.)
Michael Fasold
William Ferris, Capt., USNR (Ret.)
Wallace Benjamin Foreman, QM1, USN (Ret.)*
William T. Ferris, Capt. USNR (Ret.)*
James Foster, GMG1, USN (Ret.)
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Robert L. Franson, BMCS (SW)*
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Bill Garlow*
Les Garrett*
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Donald Goldberg*
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Kenneth Golden*
Gerald L. Good, Lt. USN*
Roy Graham
John C. Graves*
Charles E. Green, ENCM, USN (Ret.)*
Dennis L. Green, GMG*
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Louis Hahn ETCM (SW) USN (Ret.)
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Tom Herritage*
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John Howell*
Warren Hudson*
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Robert Hunt*
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Tom Jones*
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Robert Koger, QM2*
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Jack K. Lane, GMG3*
William T. Langham*
William Lannom*
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Louis Letson, LCdr., USN (Ret.)*
Jim Madden, RD3*
William S. Mann, Jr., Lt.jg*
Jim Marohn, GMG3*
Douglas Martin, Lt. USNR*
Tom Mason, Lt.*
Donald Matras, EN2 (Ret.)*
Thomas Mason, Lt.*
Louis Masterson*
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James McNeal, ENC*
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Jack Merkley, Lt.*
James M. Miller*
John Miller, ENC (Ret.)
Martin Miller, ENC (Ret.)*
Marc Milligan, GMG2*
Benjamin A. Montoya, QM3*
Edward Morgan, Capt. USN*
Edgar (Ed) M. Morrill, Jr.*
Tom Morrill, EN3*
Wayne H. Moser*
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Frank Mueller*
Marc Milligan, GMG2*
Ed Mundy*
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Richard Olsen, Lt.*
Richard O'Mara, RD2, USN
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Albert Owens*
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Richard Pees, Lt., USNR
James Penkert, ENC
Thomas Petersik
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Charles Plumley*
Joseph L. Ponder, GMG-2, USN (Ret.)*
Chuck Rabel*
Bob Reller
Steve Renfro, RD3, USN (Ret.)
Don Renshaw, EN2, USN PCF 93
Frank Rockwell
Bill Rogers, Lt.*
Patrick Sage GMG3*
Gary W. Sallee, BM2*
Burke Salsi, RD2
Joe Sandoval, GMG3*
Jimmy W. Sanford, RD3*
Robert Scattergood*
Jim Schneider, EN2*
Clair J. (Pete) Schrodt, Capt. USN (Ret.)*
Jack Shamley*
Patrick Sheedy, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
Paul Shepherd, QM2*
Robert B. Shirley, Lt.jg*
William Shumadine*
Stanley G. Simonson, GMG2*
John Singleton, ENC
Darryl Skuce, GMG2*
John J. Skura*
Gerald H. Smith*
Bob Smith, GMG2
Gerald Smith
Roy Smith*
B. Tony Snesko BM2*
Mike Solhaug*
Jack Spratt, LCDR*
David R. Stefferud, Capt., USN (Ret.)*
James Steffes*
Fred E. Stith, USN (Ret.)*
Lawrence Stoneberg, Lt. USN (Ret.)*
Weymouth Symmes, RDM*
Tony Taylor
W.P. "Sonny" Taylor*
Dewey Thedford
James P. Thomas*
Eldon Thompson, Lt.jg*
Larry Thurlow, Lt.jg
Joseph Timmons, RD3, USN
Charles R. Tinstman, ENC*
Gary E. Townsend*
William F. Trainer*
Mark Tuft, Capt., USN (Ret.)
Michael Turley, BM2*
Chris J. Vedborg, RD3*
Jeffrey M. Wainscott, Lt.jg*
David Wallace*
Greg Ward, EN2*
Larry J. “Waz” Wasikowski, Cdr. U.S. Naval Reserve*
Pete Webster*
Steven Weekley, GMG, QM3*
George Wendell, En1, USN (Ret.)
Bruce Wentworth, Lt., USNR
George H. White, II*
R. Shelton White, Lt.*
Gary K. Whittington, EN3*
James D. Wiggins*
Tom Wilkins
Thomas A. Withey, Lt.*
Bernard Wolff*
Thomas W. Wright, Cdr., USN (Ret.)*
John Wyatt, GMG*
John Yeoman, Lt.*

Ex Officio (other military):

Ross Barker, Capt. USN (Ret.)
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Allan Clapp, ETR3, USN
George Clatterbuck, CMSgt. USAF, Ret.
Tony DeLuna
David Desiderio, Cdr., USCG (Ret.)
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Jim Fitzgerald
Monte Gluck
Don Higgins
Larry Hobson
Robert Johnson
Walter Jones, USMC
Adrian Lonsdale, Capt., USCG (Ret.)
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Larry Meyer*
Benjamin A. Montoya, QM3*
Denny O'Brien
Cordelia Ogrinz, in memory of her brother Alexander J. Ogrinz, III, Lt.*
Rex Rectanus, VADM, USN (Ret.)*
Skip Ridley*
Jennings Rogerson II, Capt. USMC* (Ret.)
John Slagle, Special agent, USBP (Ret.)
Patrick Stevenson, Army Special Forces (Ret.)
Emmett Tidd, Vice Admiral, USN, (Ret.)*
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Steve Watts, Army
Dennis D. Willess, EN3, Army Infantry*
Raymond Wroten, SSgt., USMC (Ret.)
James M. Zumwalt in memory of Elmo Zumwalt, Sr. and Elmo Zumwalt, Jr, his father and brother*

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I personally find Mittens to be an utterly worthless RINO, but Flintypoo, do you really want someone to start comparing Mitten's 1960s mission in France with Lord Obama's 1980s missions in Indonesia and Pockystahn? Really?
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:49   #16
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Obama has allowed Al Sharpton to be his running mate.

Obama could have acted Presidential by asking for everyone to wait for the grand jury decision before rushing to judgment but no, he sided with Sharpton.

The American people trusted Obama would be our President representing the entire nation but that has sadly not happened.
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