Where would you go to disappear/blend in? - Page 2

gh0st614 · 03-31-2012, 20:04

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Originally Posted by emt1581

Why a city vs. the woods/middle of nowhere?

Thanks

-Emt1581

I think the safest thing would be to goto a city you have never been before. People stand out in the country especially if they are not local. Its alot easier to blend in and be a ghost in a big city.

But it really depends who is loooking for you, if its a stalker or a exgf or something I take alot less precautions. If it was something more organized you would have to be very disciplined.

inzone · 03-31-2012, 21:33

any mid to large size city with good public transportation, bus,subway, elevated train etc. also, preferably one with a lot of transient folks, tourists, etc. where you can pay in cash and not attract attention. I guess i learned somethin from readin those Ludlum novels!

lawman800 · 04-01-2012, 05:26

If I win the lotto, I am moving overseas. I have good spot already picked out.

**kirgi08** · 04-01-2012, 06:34

Costa Rica ?

The term is "Ghost". Could "one" vanish,yep both of us could.Plans are just that,it's just that simple.'08.

lawman800 · 04-01-2012, 12:13

Yes, it doesn't have to be that complicated. Just pick a spot that works and go.

NecoDude · 04-01-2012, 13:34

A country boy can survive... but I would have to be in the country I think. I'm not street wise in any way, shape or form so I think I'd stick out like a nun in (insert wherever nuns don't belong)....

Unless there's an app for fitting into a big city...

Dexters · 04-01-2012, 15:39

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Originally Posted by NecoDude

A country boy can survive... but I would have to be in the country I think. I'm not street wise in any way, shape or form so I think I'd stick out like a nun in (insert wherever nuns don't belong)....

Unless there's an app for fitting into a big city...

Country people would notice a new face. If the BG knows your general area, his asking around might find you.

If you are going to 'The Big City', they can be expensive and if you are looking for an apartment you will need to provide references - previous rentals, previous jobs, current job, bank info etc. When that info is being checked out the apt manager is telling people where you are. If, you living on the streets, in your car or a hotel in The Big City then you are OK.

Other options - hike the Appalachian Trail, bike, walk, motorcycle around the USA.

Warp · 04-01-2012, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Dexters

Country people would notice a new face. If the BG knows your general area, his asking around might find you.

If you are going to 'The Big City', they can be expensive and if you are looking for an apartment you will need to provide references - previous rentals, previous jobs, current job, bank info etc. When that info is being checked out the apt manager is telling people where you are. If, you living on the streets, in your car or a hotel in The Big City then you are OK.

Other options - hike the Appalachian Trail, bike, walk, motorcycle around the USA.

Depends what kind of apartment you get, and how you pay.

Dexters · 04-01-2012, 16:56

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Originally Posted by Warp

Depends what kind of apartment you get, and how you pay.

Right, I forgot about a weekly 'cuatro paredes'.

Warp · 04-01-2012, 16:57

Which brings its own problems and potential issues, of course.

9jeeps · 04-01-2012, 17:08

Wouldn't change a thing. But one would have to win at a lottery. To do that one would have to buy a ticket or so. I don't so all remains the same.

gunowner1 · 04-01-2012, 17:43

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth...y%22_Raulerson
This guy disappeared for a long time.

emt1581 · 04-01-2012, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Dexters

Country people would notice a new face. If the BG knows your general area, his asking around might find you.

If you are going to 'The Big City', they can be expensive and if you are looking for an apartment you will need to provide references - previous rentals, previous jobs, current job, bank info etc. When that info is being checked out the apt manager is telling people where you are. If, you living on the streets, in your car or a hotel in The Big City then you are OK.

Other options - hike the Appalachian Trail, bike, walk, motorcycle around the USA.

Good points all around. Looks like, unless you are willing to live out of your car...and even the parking will cost you a LOT in a major city... you will have to live in a roach infested hotel where the chance of getting bit, infected, or shot is probably pretty high.

The trail is an idea. I could do that in a heart beat any time of year for a LOOONGGGG time with the added bonus of being able to control my environment/perimeter. My wife and infant son... no chance.

-Emt1581

RedHaze · 04-01-2012, 18:50

Head on out to some wild country that I know well.

The wife and kids can make do. There are enough old mines, miners shacks, cowpunch cabins, etc to provide more than enough shelter in all but the most extreme phases of weather. And as an added bonus, a lot of the old timer's homes have old orchards nearby, as well as springs.

Dexters · 04-01-2012, 19:44

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Originally Posted by emt1581

The trail is an idea. I could do that in a heart beat any time of year for a LOOONGGGG time with the added bonus of being able to control my environment/perimeter. My wife and infant son... no chance.

-Emt1581

Don't forget about that RV idea. It could double with bugging out.

Get a lot of cash to pay for gas, RV parks etc and you would be difficult to find.

Warp · 04-01-2012, 19:48

RV came immediately to my mind as well. Lots of RV parks, state parks, forests, national parks, forests, KOAs, etc etc. If you can afford to buy one upfront and you really need to disappear for awhile, and are either going by yourself or you get one big enough that whoever/whatever can fit with you...pretty sweet.

emt1581 · 04-01-2012, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Dexters

Don't forget about that RV idea. It could double with bugging out.

Get a lot of cash to pay for gas, RV parks etc and you would be difficult to find.

That's a damn good idea!

Only concern I would have is somehow tracking the vehicle (i.e. On-Star, Lo-Jack, etc.). Someone with some sort of connection could easily track it.

But otherwise, I think this makes a lot of sense. Plus you don't have to travel anywhere odd or uncomfortable. Just find a wal-mart parking lot outside of your AO and hunker down...move to a different one every night or every other night...

Again, my only concern would be a vehicle locator of some kind.

The one I like the most, I forget it's name, but it looks like a large van. Inside, it has room to sleep 3-4 people, bathroom, kitchen, etc... PERFECT!

...how do you eliminate tracking though?

Thanks

-Emt1581

Dexters · 04-01-2012, 20:02

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Originally Posted by emt1581

That's a damn good idea!

Only concern I would have is somehow tracking the vehicle (i.e. On-Star, Lo-Jack, etc.). Someone with some sort of connection could easily track it.

But otherwise, I think this makes a lot of sense. Plus you don't have to travel anywhere odd or uncomfortable. Just find a wal-mart parking lot outside of your AO and hunker down...move to a different one every night or every other night...

Again, my only concern would be a vehicle locator of some kind.

The one I like the most, I forget it's name, but it looks like a large van. Inside, it has room to sleep 3-4 people, bathroom, kitchen, etc... PERFECT!

...how do you eliminate tracking though?

Thanks

-Emt1581

I don't know about the tracking.

The all in one vans tend to be expensive. Plus you have to unhook electric and sewer whenever you want to leave the RV park to go to the store.

Look more at a travel trailer that you pull with a pick up. A 21 footer would be more than enough. With the price of gas going up the cost of a used one will be going down.

Go to www.woodalls.com to find RV parks and the cost - monthly rates are very reasonable - except for Fla in the winter - but you have to pay for electric.

EMT, you would like the idea of going off the grid with one of these. Look up "Slab City" in Arizona or New Mexico.

emt1581 · 04-01-2012, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Dexters

I don't know about the tracking.

The all in one vans tend to be expensive. Plus you have to unhook electric and sewer whenever you want to leave the RV park to go to the store.

Look more at a travel trailer that you pull with a pick up. A 21 footer would be more than enough. With the price of gas going up the cost of a used one will be going down.

Roadtrek is what I was thinking of.

As far as I can tell, no need to give up any "luxuries" in life (toilet, shower, bed, heat/ac, etc). They are about as expensive as any BMW, Mercedes, etc...

I don't like the fact that they have to be registered. Other than that, I imagine any tracking devices can be disabled, plus I can store the thing in my garage.

Just park it between two larger RV's at wally-world or some radom/off-road place.... like a small home on wheels...with enough gas money it'd work quite well as far as I see it.

-Emt1581

emt1581 · 04-01-2012, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Dexters

I don't know about the tracking.

The all in one vans tend to be expensive. Plus you have to unhook electric and sewer whenever you want to leave the RV park to go to the store.

Look more at a travel trailer that you pull with a pick up. A 21 footer would be more than enough. With the price of gas going up the cost of a used one will be going down.

Go to www.woodalls.com to find RV parks and the cost - monthly rates are very reasonable - except for Fla in the summer - but you have to pay for electric.

EMT, you would like the idea of going off the grid with one of these. Look up "Slab City" in Arizona or New Mexico.

Giving the BG's the most generous amount of credit possible here....I wouldn't buy an RV and then take it to an RV park. Again, with any connection, they would learn I had an RV and then check RV parks. One of the global/nationwide gangs could put out an APB of sorts and search them easily.

Wal-mart parking lots or middle of no where would work for sleeping...while awake I could take care of whatever business needed.

-Emt1581

Dexters · 04-01-2012, 20:17

http://blog.vagabonders-supreme.net/

emt1581 · 04-01-2012, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Dexters

http://blog.vagabonders-supreme.net/

I'll take a more in depth look tomorrow. Only thing I would add to this vehicle would be a place/way to store a motorcycle. One hell of a capability for daily business to have another vehicle in the space of a large van...

Hell, even a small bike I do not currently own would work there. Enduros seem to be the lightest and most compact. Could probably be stored on board between the seats...

...any ideas on that one?

Thanks

-Emt1581

Warp · 04-01-2012, 20:22

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Originally Posted by emt1581

Giving the BG's the most generous amount of credit possible here....I wouldn't buy an RV and then take it to an RV park. Again, with any connection, they would learn I had an RV and then check RV parks. One of the global/nationwide gangs could put out an APB of sorts and search them easily.

Wal-mart parking lots or middle of no where would work for sleeping...while awake I could take care of whatever business needed.

-Emt1581

Do you realize how many RV parks there are in this country? RV parks, state and national parks, KOAs, smaller privately owned one-off parks (have family with one of those), etc.

I think saying that you are seriously over estimating their ability is an exaggeration.

GLOCK17DB9 · 04-01-2012, 20:23

A lot of really good ideas. I was just thinking Walmart!

emt1581 · 04-01-2012, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Warp

Do you realize how many RV parks there are in this country? RV parks, state and national parks, KOAs, smaller privately owned one-off parks (have family with one of those), etc.

I think saying that you are seriously over estimating their ability is an exaggeration.

I just don't want to give the enemy a chance. That's another statement that can be interpreted more ways than one.

-Emt1581