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Old 04-01-2012, 14:25   #1
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Biden: Trayvon Martinís Death Should Spark Gun Law Debate

Biden, speaking on CBS Face the Nation, "said the death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin should prompt a debate about gun laws"...
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“It’s important that people be put in a position where their Second Amendment rights are protected, but that they also don’t, as a consequence of the laws, unintendedly put themselves in harm’s way,”

“The idea that there’s this overwhelming additional security in the ownership and carrying concealed and deadly weapons…I think it’s the premise, not the constitutional right, but the premise that it makes people safer is one that I’m not so sure of,”

“I’m confident the people of Florida will debate and discuss whether or not this law, the Stand Your Ground law, whether is being applied as it was intended to [be] applied and whether or not as intended it makes sense, ... But that’s a decision for the state to make.”
Biden: Trayvon Martin’s Death Should Spark Gun Law Debate
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bide...un-law-debate/
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Old 04-01-2012, 14:55   #2
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I think the quoted portion makes complete sense.

Find out what happened in the TM/GZ case. Once you see if justice was done, or an innocent man crucified, or a guilty man allowed to get away scott-free after a homicide, then determine did the law work as intended, or should it be revised in light of this presumably unforeseen situation based on the outcome.

Depending on how that comes out, you may need more protection for self-defense shooters, you may have too much protection, at the expense of innocent people involved in a horrible misunderstanding. Time will tell. Either way, seeing if the law needs to be refined is a good thing. When have lawmakers gotten it absolutely right?

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I think it’s the premise, not the constitutional right, but the premise that it makes people safer is one that I’m not so sure of,”
After having a few road rage shootings involving motorists with CPL's in MI, the premise that a pistol makes you safer in all situations is indeed one I'm not so sure of. I think there may be a tendency for a pistol to make stupid people stupider. That said, if there's any way someone's found to identify those people ahead of time to screen them, I'm all ears. But stupid people do have a right to defend themselves too, so not sure you can deny them a right on the odd chance they'll misuse it in a one in a million situation.

Biden did say the state should make that call, I have no problem with that.

And for the record, I think every case of an innocent victim of a robbery/homicide in Chicago, DC, or New York ought to trigger a reexamination of THEIR concealed carry laws also.


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Old 04-01-2012, 15:25   #3
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They finally found the right dead black kid after passing up thousands.
What a sick political party the Democrats are.

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Old 04-01-2012, 15:30   #4
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Old 04-01-2012, 15:32   #5
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They finally found the right dead black kid after passing up thousands.
What a sick political party the Democrats are.

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Old 04-01-2012, 15:38   #6
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Old 04-01-2012, 15:39   #7
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I would love to see the squatter pushing for a gun law... any gun law. It would really help a lot of the middle of the road gun owners make up their minds to vote Republican. Here's hoping the squatter and his fellow domestic terrorists come on out with a really expansive gun control agenda that they can stand up and push during the upcoming election cycle. With the House and Senate in play... it could give Conservatives and Republicans just was we've wanted for so long... complete control of the legislation! Just imagine... passing laws over the screaming of pleosi and the veto of the squatter. Voting down his attempts to nominate political hacks to pack the judiciary. Bring it on! Bring it on! Bring it on!
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Old 04-01-2012, 15:43   #8
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what a baffoon. the hundreds of blacks shot by other blacks every year in gun restrictive cities like chicago and wash d.c. mean nothing to him.
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Old 04-01-2012, 15:48   #9
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I would love to see the squatter pushing for a gun law... any gun law. It would really help a lot of the middle of the road gun owners make up their minds to vote Republican. Here's hoping the squatter and his fellow domestic terrorists come on out with a really expansive gun control agenda that they can stand up and push during the upcoming election cycle. With the House and Senate in play... it could give Conservatives and Republicans just was we've wanted for so long... complete control of the legislation! Just imagine... passing laws over the screaming of pleosi and the veto of the squatter. Voting down his attempts to nominate political hacks to pack the judiciary. Bring it on! Bring it on! Bring it on!
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Old 04-01-2012, 15:58   #10
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Right after we have that national discussion on race.
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Old 04-01-2012, 16:13   #11
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They're going to pimp this for whatever mileage they can. Fortunately, some folks can see this.
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Old 04-01-2012, 16:15   #12
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Let's have job requirements for POTUS instead.
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Old 04-01-2012, 18:50   #13
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The only debate is how a worthless asshat like Biden is ever elected to office.
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Old 04-01-2012, 18:56   #14
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I agree with Joe Biden, this incident should re-open a gun debate about whether 9mm in a KelTec Pf9 is adequate.
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Old 04-01-2012, 19:05   #15
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I agree with Joe Biden, this incident should re-open a gun debate about whether 9mm in a KelTec Pf9 is adequate.
A 147 gr 9mm JHP at 1100 fps don't care what kind of gun it came out of, or maybe double tap with 9mm DRT.


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Old 04-01-2012, 19:09   #16
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I agree with Joe Biden, this incident should re-open a gun debate about whether 9mm in a KelTec Pf9 is adequate.
B'lieve that one got settled .......

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Old 04-01-2012, 20:22   #17
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I guess Obama's Ed McMahon is stepping in to do what Holder couldn't. I wonder what Border Patrol Agent Biden has marked for death?
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Old 04-01-2012, 23:50   #18
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Biden shut up your ignorance is showing again.
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Old 04-01-2012, 23:55   #19
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The only debate is how a worthless asshat like Biden is ever elected to office.
Spending a few seconds in Delaware solves that mystery.
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Old 04-01-2012, 23:59   #20
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Well, it's good to see democraps in the regime drop their pretenses and come back out of the anti-gun closet.
Wonder what the board Obama-knobbers have to say now?
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