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Old 04-09-2012, 10:15   #1
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BREAKING: NO GRAND JURY in Trayvon Martin case

Very strange turn of events. So does the prosecutor think he has enough evidence to continue without one?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/no-g...e-20120409-APX
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:18   #2
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"The decision should not be considered a factor in the final determination of the case," Corey's office said in a statement.

The grand jury, set to convene on Tuesday, was previously scheduled by the former prosecutor.

Corey previously said she has not used grand jury's in cases like this and added that from the time she was appointed she said she may not need a grand jury.

The decision about whether or not to charge George Zimmerman in the case now rests with prosecutors.

"At this time, the investigation continues and there will be no further comment from this office," in the statement.
The decision means that the timetable for any possible charges remains up in the air.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/09...ion/?hpt=hp_t1
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Love how the story reports that he was "gunned down" by George Zimmerman.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:19   #4
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With the "edited 911 tape" being previously released, and all the controversy it caused, I say the whole case will be dropped.

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Old 04-09-2012, 10:24   #5
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Love how the story reports that he was "gunned down" by George Zimmerman.
I didn't link to many sources that still ran with the "innocent skittles lad" angle. Yellow journalism, it's what's for supper.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:36   #6
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Very strange turn of events. So does the prosecutor think he has enough evidence to continue without one?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/no-g...e-20120409-APX
hmm, interesting how this will play out. If not guilty of any crimes get ready for riots.....or zimmerman will be thrown under the bus for the good of the country.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:43   #7
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Very strange turn of events. So does the prosecutor think he has enough evidence to continue without one?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/no-g...e-20120409-APX
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:51   #8
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The prosecutor cannot proceed without an indictment - not presenting it to the grand jury usually means there isn't enough evidence to warrant a grand jury and the prosecutor is dropping the charges.

She can choose to drop the charges or present it to a later grand jury, but she can't choose to go ahead with a felony charge without the grand jury.

EDIT: Actually, there may be a way around it in Florida, alhtough I don't think they could charge murder. Still looking at this.
Thanks, good info. Perusing the DU this morning, it looks like they have just the opposite opinion...... a guaranteed conviction!
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Thanks, good info. Perusing the DU this morning, it looks like they have just the opposite opinion...... a guaranteed conviction!
Sadly, they may be right and I may have jumped to a conlcusion that would be true in KY, but not Florida.

It looks like, in a Florida state prosecution, you only have an absolute right to a grand jury for a capital crime, so something like a manslaughter charge would not require it.
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hmm, interesting how this will play out. If not guilty of any crimes get ready for riots.....or zimmerman will be thrown under the bus for the good of the country.
They MUST bring Zimmerman to trial. If not, there will be riots.

They MUST start the trial quickly or there will be riots.

If it goes to a trial, there MUST be a conviction or there will be riots.

If there is a conviction, there MUST be a long prison sentence or there will be riots.

And with all the crap by the MSM it will be difficult to find a jury that will be fair.

Apr 29...the 20 yr anniversary of the '92 Rodney King riots in L.A. A riot brought about by blacks who didn't like the findings of the jury.
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I think they are going to charge him directly. The grand jury would be used as a fig leaf for not charging him.

My prediction is a second degree murder charge and then the jury will convict him of manslaughter.
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What this whole thing is about, is to send America a message: "Don't fight back against rioters or 'the legal system' will hamstring you".

Like all 'products' of the left, it was badly done and coming a cropper .....

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I think they are going to charge him directly. The grand jury would be used as a fig leaf for not charging him.

My prediction is a second degree murder charge and then the jury will convict him of manslaughter.
I agree. I don't think the prosecutor in Fla needs a grand jury to indict unless it will be a capital case, but I could be wrong.
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Let me start off by saying that no one wants a riot or riots. On the other hand we will not be intimidated by the threats of a riot (or should not be). From what I am hearing, the elected officials are actually thinking about attempting to convict an innocent person because they are AFRAID not to. A lot of politicians are AFRAID of the consequences. Since when did we Americans give in to fear?
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Prior to the amendment to Section 10 of the Declaration of Rights of the Constitution of the State of Florida, F.S.A., persons charged with a felony were tried on indictment by a grand jury. By amendment adopted in 1934, except for a capital crime, a person may be tried for other felonies upon information filed by the prosecuting attorney of the court. Thus, in 1934 a prosecuting attorney of the court became, in effect, a one-man grand jury.
Widener v. Croft, 184 So.2d 444, 445 (Fla.App. 1966)
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Let me start off by saying that no one wants a riot or riots. On the other hand we will not be intimidated by the threats of a riot (or should not be). From what I am hearing, the elected officials are actually thinking about attempting to convict an innocent person because they are AFRAID not to. A lot of politicians are AFRAID of the consequences. Since when did we Americans give in to fear?
The only thing politicians are afraid of is not getting reelected. They couldn't care less about this case.
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The AUDACITY of that volunteered for, appointed-not-elected Grand Jury!
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Since when did we Americans give in to fear?
Probably around the time we started frisking our grandmothers and teenage daughters in airports.

You say "we Americans" as if this phrase has any meaning in 2012, as if we are more than a tax farm managed by sociopaths.

The notion is quaint, and certainly appealing, but does not match up with even a casual observation of our actual surroundings.
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:04   #20
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Hope he walks,,,, i dont see any large scale riot,justa few idiots in florida that will aget a beat down and it will be over
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