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Old 04-11-2012, 19:28   #1
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What's all the hype with night sights?

I have the stock sights on my G27 and shoot just fine with them. The G27 is also my EDC and I always have a flashlight on my person too as part of my CC get up. So low light really isn't an issue for me. So what's the benefit of night sights? Not trying to start a war over stock sights vs. night sights. Just curious about any added benefit by having night sights.
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:32   #2
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I have the stock sights on my G27 and shoot just fine with them. The G27 is also my EDC and I always have a flashlight on my person too as part of my CC get up. So low light really isn't an issue for me. So what's the benefit of night sights? Not trying to start a war over stock sights vs. night sights. Just curious about any added benefit by having night sights.
Have you ever shot with them?
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:35   #3
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Let's be honest here I ain't shooting at night but I think it might be because they seem so secret agent like lol
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:35   #4
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Have you ever shot with them?

I haven't I've just never been able to justify the extra expense, but I am wondering if they make the shooting experience that much better.
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:37   #5
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True,

I agree with you regarding night sights in personal and home defense. They are, however, very important in both law enforcement and military applications.
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:39   #6
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Mine came already installed on my EDC.
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:39   #7
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I haven't I've just never been able to justify the extra expense, but I am wondering if they make the shooting experience that much better.
To me, yes. I didn't think so until I shot a night qualifying course in the academy. Even with a flashlight, sight acquisition was/is much faster with night sights. It's easier for me to find three glowing dots in a hurry than try to fill the notch of the rear sights with negative space (blacked out front sight against a lit target).
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:41   #8
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I had night fire a few weeks ago, they come in VERY handy! I have a set on my duty weapon and on my back-up/off duty.
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:42   #9
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I've been an LEO since I was old enough to own a handgun (almost 12 years now). I carry 24/7. My training told me that night sights were a necessity as low light/no light shootings are very frequent. As a result... Every carry handgun (and some of my rifles) that I've ever owned have had them. Better to have, and not need than to need, and not have. Night sights are cheap, why not have them?
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:43   #10
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The purpose of night sights is so you can see them in low light conditions, not necessarily no light conditions.

What are you going to do with a flashlight, shine it on your sights? (Joke!)

I demo night sights for customers by putting them in a dark room with two guns, one with night sights, and one without. Then I turn out the lights in the outer room (there is still some light, it is not totally dark), then I open the door a little, have them try to aim the two guns at a target in the outer room.

Then they buy the night sights!
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If you can't see well enough to align your sights or point shoot, how can you be 100% sure that there is actually a threat?

Not living in a Castle Doctrine state has changed the definition of a "good shoot" for me. I recently switched from Trijicons to all black Sevigny Carry sights.
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:54   #12
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Most shootings take place in low light conditions.

Why NOT night sights?
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Old 04-11-2012, 20:00   #13
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Old 04-11-2012, 20:02   #14
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Most shootings take place in low light conditions.

Why NOT night sights?
Most shootings also take place within 5yds. Do you really need sights to hit C.O.M. @ 5yds? With some exceptions for LE/SWAT/SF operators, most people probably never get a proper sight picture in a gunfight anyway. It's not like taking a shot once every 2-3 seconds at the range. It's probably more like, point at the threat & pull the trigger as fast as you can until the threat stops.
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Old 04-11-2012, 20:05   #15
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Seriously? Ok what if you can't get to your light in said low light altercation? What if the batt's are dead? What if your off hand is injured? On your back and can't get to your light? Have you ever fired in low light? Me thinks not otherwise this wouldn't even have been asked...
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Most shootings take place in low light conditions.

Why NOT night sights?
I've heard the same, so I can... see...,the benefit. Har har har! :D

Meathead9, my eyes are getting older (along with the rest of me!). Don't know how old you are or how good your vision is, but for me, driving at night or dusk, that nice crisp focus switching back and forth from road to dash is a little slower than it used to be.

At night or evening, if there is enough light to identify a target, can you understand where acquiring a sight picture might be aided by glowing sights?

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Old 04-11-2012, 20:17   #17
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Well I prefer the 3-dot sight picture as opposed to the normal glock sights, so I figure if I'm to spend extra for sights, they may as well be night sights! Better to have and not need than to need and not have!
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Old 04-11-2012, 20:23   #18
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You guys tend to use factory stock night sights or aftermarket?

Isn't it like $80 to send in your slide for glock to install night sights>?
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Old 04-11-2012, 20:33   #19
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2 is 1 and 1 is none I guess. Better to have them and not need them, then to need them and not have them........You get the point. To me, other then cost, there is really no good reason NOT to have them.
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Most shootings also take place within 5yds. Do you really need sights to hit C.O.M. @ 5yds? With some exceptions for LE/SWAT/SF operators, most people probably never get a proper sight picture in a gunfight anyway. It's not like taking a shot once every 2-3 seconds at the range. It's probably more like, point at the threat & pull the trigger as fast as you can until the threat stops.
So I take it you have removed the sights entirely from your pistol because you will not use them?

I will bet probably not. Low light does not mean no light. I propose an experiment, change the lighting in your room to dim. Move around and try to find your sights, change the light to a different room that is now casting some light into your room. Move around and try aiming. When I go outside at night I don't get darkness. There are lights and there are shadows and pools of comparative darkness. Sometimes I'd be able to see and some times not and that might change by moving a foot or two. I'll say this as well I might very well be able to see someone pointing a shotgun at me and not be able to see my front sight. I can always see those 3 dots. Saying that I'd rather have a red dot.
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Night sights only show you your sights. Night sights can't show you that your potential threat is your kid sneaking back into the house in the middle of the night. Spend a money on a good flashlight instead.
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I have the stock sights on my G27 and shoot just fine with them. The G27 is also my EDC and I always have a flashlight on my person too as part of my CC get up. So low light really isn't an issue for me. So what's the benefit of night sights? Not trying to start a war over stock sights vs. night sights. Just curious about any added benefit by having night sights.
How fast can you draw both your G27 and your flashlight? Have you ever even tried? I carry two flashlights and a G26 with nightsights and a laser. I carry two flashlights because I actually use them nearly daily so I want one that I know will work for awhile. I'm never going to draw both my G26 and a flashlight at the same time and stare at my laser dot through the night sights. But I may use some combination of that.
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So I take it you have removed the sights entirely from your pistol because you will not use them?

I will bet probably not. Low light does not mean no light. I propose an experiment, change the lighting in your room to dim. Move around and try to find your sights, change the light to a different room that is now casting some light into your room. Move around and try aiming. When I go outside at night I don't get darkness. There are lights and there are shadows and pools of comparative darkness. Sometimes I'd be able to see and some times not and that might change by moving a foot or two. I'll say this as well I might very well be able to see someone pointing a shotgun at me and not be able to see my front sight. I can always see those 3 dots. Saying that I'd rather have a red dot.
No I didn't remove all the sights from my Glocks. I also shoot USPSA/IDPA, and shoot recreationally with them. That being said, if I needed to shoot a threat inside my room like your scenario, I guarantee you I'd never get a proper sight picture. My room is only about 20'x20', and I can definitely point shoot accurately enough inside 7yds.

You're missing my point. I'm not just going to start blasting in the dark just because I can see 3 glowing green dots. Even if it's Low Light, if I can properly identify a threat, I can get an adequate sight picture with black Sevigny Carry sights. If I can see a guy pointing a shotgun at me, I can see my sights well enough. Otherwise I'll point shoot. There are so many variables in SD scenarios. We can "what if?" this all day long, but I still don't think night sights are a necessity. Training, situational awareness, and knowing your gun are far more important than glowing sights.


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I just like 'em!

The TFO's are really cool, but I worry about folks saying the front sight has a tendency to come off during shooting..
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Night sights only show you your sights. Night sights can't show you that your potential threat is your kid sneaking back into the house in the middle of the night. Spend a money on a good flashlight instead.
Not everybody has kids so if someone other than my wife is walking at night in it, then they......
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