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Old 04-12-2012, 18:46   #41
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Barrel sizes the bullet. Richard Lee says that is best for accuracy (over a lead bullet sizer).
I'm not following you. Read my post and see if you can pick A or B, or dumb it down for me.
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Old 04-12-2012, 19:10   #42
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I'm not following you. Read my post and see if you can pick A or B, or dumb it down for me.
C) As the bullet goes into the throat it gets sized.
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Old 04-12-2012, 19:19   #43
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You sure are proud of those humungous ginormous incredible large groups. If they were mine I would be ashamed of them instead of continually posting them.
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Old 04-12-2012, 19:27   #44
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You sure are proud of those humungous ginormous incredible large groups. If they were mine I would be ashamed of them instead of continually posting them.
It's not bad for a $398.00 gun firing $1.50/box ammo and being operated by a mediocre shooter. Besides, I post them to piss off Jack.
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Now, now, don't make Wisky feel bad, those groups aren't terrible... I've got a couple shotguns that pattern just like that.


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C) As the bullet goes into the throat it gets sized.
But the end of the chamber is smaller than the bullet. So something has to give before the bullet even gets to the throat.

(I think.)
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But the end of the chamber is smaller than the bullet. So something has to give before the bullet even gets to the throat.

(I think.)
The throat is cone shape and the bullet gets squeezed down. When the bullet is touching the throat its touching the inside if that cone. Not some square edge.
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Old 04-13-2012, 00:15   #48
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That makes sense. Thanks C4W.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:13   #49
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Pas lone wolf barrels

If you really wanted to do a PSA on Lone Wolf Barrels it should be about the real problem with their barrels.

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How true.
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LWD failure

I went out to the desert to test the tune up work that I had done on some ammo and on a couple of Lone Wolf Barrels. I have them in a Glock 27 and a Glock 30.

I had polished the feeding ramps and the chambers with some Flitz to a high sheen and had adjusted the OAL on 3 different types of ammo for each of the two calibers. The first magazine of the 45ACP almost made it through before there would be a Failure to Feed and after that approximately 30-50% of the rounds would hang up and fail to chamber completely.

The 40S&W ammo did the same thing and I came away steamed at the failure after all the work. I had reduced the OAL on all the test ammo and the chambers and feed ramps were really shining.

Today I ordered two KKM aftermarkets barrels for those Glocks and am anxious to test them out. I really don't think I could sell these LWD barrels to anyone and have a clear conscience about it.

Oh well.......Shoulda done my homework first.
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Did you chamber check the ammo before firing. Hate to tell you but it may not be the barrel at all.
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Did you chamber check the ammo before firing. Hate to tell you but it may not be the barrel at all.
^^THIS^^^ I run a LW in my G17, mostly lead bullets. It did require a bit deeper seating than the factory bbl (yes I shot lead in that too), very common w/ LW bbls. You have to adjust the OAL, chamber check to fit, then go shoot. I recently bought a SL 9 & 40 for my G32. Definitely a slightly nicer bbl, but they do cost more.
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Did you chamber check the ammo before firing. Hate to tell you but it may not be the barrel at all.
Probably not....
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Much ado about nothing.

From what I've read here and at other sites lack of proper resizing/bullet seating depth/improper crimp has caused just about all the problems associated with LW barrels. Having owned more then a few over the years I'd have to agree. I've never had any trouble with any of mine for any reason.

BTW, when I was buying mine they were made in Korea.
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^^THIS^^^ I run a LW in my G17, mostly lead bullets. It did require a bit deeper seating than the factory bbl (yes I shot lead in that too), very common w/ LW bbls. You have to adjust the OAL, chamber check to fit, then go shoot. I recently bought a SL 9 & 40 for my G32. Definitely a slightly nicer bbl, but they do cost more.
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So you have a Lone Wolf and a Storm Lake? You feel the Storm Lake is nicer as well? I thought they were about the same price? Very few people seem to have owned both. Are the chambers similarly tight?
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So you have a Lone Wolf and a Storm Lake? You feel the Storm Lake is nicer as well? I thought they were about the same price? Very few people seem to have owned both. Are the chambers similarly tight?

I've had both 2 SL and 1 LW a shooting friend has a few LW's.
They seem to have equally tight chambers never checked the throats or had problems with em.
I like the SL they seem to fit better, at least the two I had, and they don't have the silly lookin cartoon character on em.
I actually had to take a thou or so off the end of the barrel hood on the SL for the G22 it was so tight. But it locks up solid with no movement, much tighter then the factory barrel. That could possibly be because all the Glocks I've owned were older I dont know?
This G22 is 12-13 years old, and the only Glock I have now.
Anyway it feeds TC, RFN and HP "all cast" without any problems.

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Interesting thread. Would have scared me off from buying a LW barrel for my gen 3, G19, but I've been very pleased with mine. Only one FTF ever with mine. It was on round #3 with Federal FMJ actually. About 1500 cast lead bullets have gone through it now with zero issues.
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With the LW barrels, or any barrel making the bullets fit the barrel by shaving them down, does this raise the case pressure?

I don't know anything about lead bullets and seating depth, and just thought that seating the bullets deep in the case, and the barrel shaving them down would develop higher case pressure.

Sorry for the dumb question.

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Barrels don't shave down bullets, (at least not on purpose). A lead bullet is normal sized a thousandth over bore diameter so it can obturate into the lands and reduce blow-by.


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