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Old 04-22-2012, 13:20   #51
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I must be missing something

I just must be missing something. I am a life member of the NRA, have volunteered time and money, which every member should do, and consider myself "all in" for the election.

How can you defend his comments that intrigued the secret service, or his poaching? If he was a normal joe, it wouldn't matter, but he is a fricking board member, and a very good business person.

As spokesperson for a gun group and hunters, you don't

A. Make any statement that can ever be seen as potentially threatening to a president.

B. Poach.

If you do, you recognize that your a distraction, fall on your sword, and resign. Come back in a year or two when all is forgiven.

When I left the NRA convention, I thought he might be an asset. When I opened the paper later last week and then saw his comments I was stunned. The Alaska poaching thing is just mindboggling.

Hey, he is just being "Ted."
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Old 04-22-2012, 13:26   #52
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Ted Nugent is a joke and only makes all gun owners look bad !!!
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Old 04-22-2012, 13:27   #53
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I'll do you one better.

I gave $1,000 to the Gun Owners of America just for my initial membership, and I continue to pay a subsequent $50 a month to remain part of it.

How's that grab your coattails, huh guy?


You give money to GOA, where there only purpose is apparently to receive your money?

Well done. However, gun owners owe you no thanks.
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Old 04-22-2012, 13:29   #54
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As far as Ted, he was accused of hunting violations for things that would be perfectly legal and normal in many other states, including Kentucky. Heck, when deer season comes in here, every hunting store and Walmart has piles of "commercial bait" for deer and shooting a spike buck is perfectly legal...if the spikes are less than an inch, you can count it as a doe and you can then use your tag to kill another buck.

He got in trouble in California, with California Fish & Wildlife. You may as well start throwing stones at a guy who got caught in California with the wrong flash suppressor on his rifle or with an extended baseplate on his Glock 26 magazine.
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Old 04-22-2012, 13:35   #55
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Well done. However, gun owners owe you no thanks.
I never said they did.
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Old 04-22-2012, 13:48   #56
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I'll do you one better.

I gave $1,000 to the Gun Owners of America just for my initial membership, and I continue to pay a subsequent $50 a month to remain part of it.

How's that grab your coattails, huh guy?
Wow neat, you have to be kidding right? Give us all the run down on the team of lawyers the GOA has fighting for you rights in washington year in and year out. Dont worry we will wait.
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Old 04-22-2012, 13:54   #57
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Wow neat, you have to be kidding right? Give us all the run down on the team of lawyers the GOA has fighting for you rights in washington year in and year out. Dont worry we will wait.
My whole point is I give as much as anybody else, I'm not arguing that the NRA is not a good organization but anyone and everyone can tell they aren't what they used to be, I got tired of all the Charlton Heston crap, the newsletters, junk mail, junk emails, etc and signed up for a barebones organization.

Don't like who I donate my money to? You know where you can cram it.

Thanks, and have a wonderful day.
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Old 04-22-2012, 14:05   #58
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Given his questionable statements, and his "strectching" of game laws, Ted should go. Send a simple email to your NRA field rep asking the NRA to do something to distance itself from the Nuge. This years NRA convention was the best ever, until Ted opened his mouth.

We now have a "spokesman" that has special friends in the secret service, and can't hunt on federal land, or in Alaska, for the next year.

A distraction and liability we don't need in 2012. Maybe he can insult stay at home moms next.
The first Bear he shot at, but there was no blood trail. 4 days later he shot at another bear which he killed on his show. Alaska officials argued that he used his tag on the first bear, and the second bear was illegal. Apparently in Alaska if you shoot and your arrow just grazes the bear and doesn't hit him directly you have used your tag. Much more serious incidents get a slap on the wrist. He got a 1 year ban,10,000 dollar fine, and had to do a commercial. This is a pure political stunt!
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Old 04-22-2012, 14:45   #59
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Surely Obama and Eric Holder would love to see the NRA drop Ted Nugent.

For that reason alone, I support him now more than ever.


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The first Bear he shot at, but there was no blood trail. 4 days later he shot at another bear which he killed on his show. Alaska officials argued that he used his tag on the first bear, and the second bear was illegal. Apparently in Alaska if you shoot and your arrow just grazes the bear and doesn't hit him directly you have used your tag. Much more serious incidents get a slap on the wrist. He got a 1 year ban,10,000 dollar fine, and had to do a commercial. This is a pure political stunt!


Yep.
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Old 04-22-2012, 15:21   #60
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For those of you that attended Ted's show at the convention, you know what he said was harmless when put into context. For those of you that didn't attend his show, you could take any portion of his monologue from that day and be offended.

As far as his hunting mistakes, I'm positive that none were made intentionally. I also know that ignorance is no excuse. He has hunting guides and employees that should also know the law.

I have sat down with Ted more than once and have had very nice conversations with him. You quickly discover that his on-air/infront of a crowd persona is strictly an attention-getter. He is still Uncle Ted to me.

As for the NRA VS. (Other Gun Org.), none of them are perfect but when the NRA speaks, congress listens. If you want to change things in your favorite organization, get involved and change them from within. With that said, I'm and Endowment Member of the NRA and have attended the last 4 conventions. I'm also a contributing member of the SAF and Knife Rights.
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Old 04-22-2012, 15:22   #61
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He got a 1 year ban,10,000 dollar fine, and had to do a commercial. This is a pure political stunt!
Bingo!

Because he's an outspoken gun proponent and conservative some weenie decided to make a big deal out of it.
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Old 04-22-2012, 15:30   #62
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Nugent draws too much bubba money for the NRA to get rid of him.
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Old 04-22-2012, 15:49   #63
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But I'm pretty sure that most that are barking about this don't hunt anyway, and have never dealt with the obscurity of game laws.
This. They make it very hard to cross the T's and dot the I's with all the violations on game laws. More hunters than not are in violation of something without even knowing it. I'm talking good honest hunters, not scumbag poachers. If you get stopped by a ticket happy game warden, he'll usually find something wrong.

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Old 04-22-2012, 15:55   #64
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Clearly, it's not a problem for NRA board members to sound crazy and dangerous. Maybe they're trying to live up to the ridiculous stereo-type of nutty gun owners.
The Brady campaign must be celebrating.
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Old 04-22-2012, 15:56   #65
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The guy admittd to poaching, a crime. If any gt member came on here and said "hey i went poaching it was sweet" wed all shun them and call them an idiot but since its nugent everbody wants to support him?
We all got laws to live by , even uncle Ted , he being in the public eye should be even more accountable . There is a price to pay for stupid and I don't care who you are ! You may play a mean guitar , but stupid is stupid !
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Old 04-22-2012, 16:11   #66
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NRA must convene to discuss Ted's standing . If they put a deaf ear, that means they condone member's action. All those in the NRA board should exhibit a clean and honest lifestyle worthy to be American gunowners. But again, NRA is just a cash cow . I hate seeing that baseball cap logo, i rather have a GLock Perfection .LOL

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Old 04-22-2012, 16:23   #67
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Meh, more drama...

Nugent shot at a bear and "touched" it with an arrow. The bear wasn't mortally wounded, but according to a new law, if your arrow even touches the animal it is now part of your bag limit. Nugent was not aware of the changed law.

Stupid law, but Nugent would have never even been looked at if he hadn't put the footage on his show. That tells me he didn't know it was illegal to shoot the second bear and transport it.

No excuse and he is owning up to it. Some of you are so fair weather I would hate to have you on a jury. Just blow whichever way the wind goes...

But I'm pretty sure that most that are barking about this don't hunt anyway, and have never dealt with the obscurity of game laws.
Don't try and confuse people with facts. Let the hate flow!
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When is Eric going to ban Ted Nugent threads because of all the intense emotions and debate they cause?
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More and more liberals in conservative clothing these days. Remember if you say stuff enough, people will start to believe it. That said I'm the most handsome athlete you've ever seen.
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When is Eric going to ban Ted Nugent threads because of all the intense emotions and debate they cause?
Hope he does. It's just used for liberal propaganda anyway.
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Old 04-22-2012, 16:35   #71
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Said something along the lines of "if obamas re-elected this time next year ill be dead or in jail."

Pretty stupid thing to say
There was also the part about that if 0bama gets elected he's going to try to take away our guns. Then he added the part you posted. I agree with him.
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Hope he does. It's just used for liberal propaganda anyway.
Liberal propaganda ? If I shot that bear I would surely be shuned here . Hit him hard , he should know better and there is no ignorance of the law in my favor ! He ain't that special .
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Liberal propaganda ? If I shot that bear I would surely be shuned here . Hit him hard , he should know better and there is no ignorance of the law in my favor ! He ain't that special .
Apparently you don't read the whole thread.
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I am absolutely amazed that anyone here would support Ted Nugent in any way.

Do the patriots here feel it is ok for Nugent to have dodged the draft during the Vietnam War? How about his lying about manning a Ma-Deuce in Afghanistan? Would you sit down and share a beer with someone else who did those things, or shun him?

Do the hunters here think it ok that Nugent has been caught poaching, and not just once? How about hs canned hunts on his game reserve? Is that an acceptable form of hunting to you? Would you walk the woods with another man that did this?

Do the fathers of teenage girls here think it is ok when a man over 30 hits on their 14,15 or 16 year old daughter? Would you say go ahead, take her, or kick his ass?

If you were to be introduced to Joe Schmuck, a draft dodger, pathological liar, poacher and pedophile who really liked guns, would you invite him to your home for dinner or put a much space between him and you as possible?

Now explain to me why you think Nugent is all that and a bag of chips.
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Then, you don't like Ted?
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