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Old 04-27-2012, 16:29   #1
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Is it ok to use Small rifle primers in 9mm??

Hey everyone, I got rid of my rifle and have 1k small rifle primers left over. I'd rather not take a hit selling these primers to buy pistol primers.

I have done some searches online, but I want to hear from those who have done this and what your experience was. Please no speculation or hearsay, just experiences.

Thanks!
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Old 04-27-2012, 16:34   #2
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I know guys that do it for 9mm major, but I am old school; use the correct primer for the task. Rifle primers are hotter also harder. Trade them to someone loading 223 or just hang on to them. I took a 10yr layoff loading small rifle stuff, glad I never sold the primers.
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Old 04-27-2012, 16:34   #3
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http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthre...Breech+Pitting


Bottom line, I wouldn't do it. Various combinations caused more or less breech damage.

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Old 04-27-2012, 17:27   #4
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I have a friend who did it. His **** always breaks and never runs. Mostly shoots a 1911 and another steel gun. I am sure a Glock could handle it.

Seriously,

He does. Never a issue, but I wouldn't do it.
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Old 04-27-2012, 18:33   #5
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If you work the load up and don't just substitute then yes. I have a friend that doesn't buy SPP any more he only buy's SRP for rifle and pistol.
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Old 04-27-2012, 18:41   #6
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I was thinking of that thread as well.

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Old 04-27-2012, 19:08   #7
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna go the road taken on this one. I'm just gonna sell those primers. No need to damage some of my prized possessions over a few buck...

Thanks for the advice and info.
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Old 04-27-2012, 20:04   #8
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Old 04-27-2012, 22:28   #9
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For 1K SR primers, I'd use them with heavy loads.

Those that use them with heavy loads, myself included for 9mm Major, have no issue with breech cutting. Reason the OP in the other thread was getting breech cutting was the load wan't heavy enough to seal the primer pocket and gas leaked.

If you don't seal the gas, you will get cutting, be it breech or in the form of leading with cast bullets.
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:54   #10
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Rifle primers have a thicker cup then pistol primers so they're normally just a bit longer then pistol primers. That means that when you seat them they'll stick out a bit which can be a dangerous condition, primers should be flush or just a bit below flush so they won't contact anything unintentionally. I'd say NO, you can't use a rifle primer in a handgun round, not unless you cut the primer pocket deeper to allow the rifle primer to be fully seated.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:02   #11
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I have a friend who did it. His **** always breaks and never runs. Mostly shoots a 1911 and another steel gun. I am sure a Glock could handle it.

Seriously,

He does. Never a issue, but I wouldn't do it.
What variety of self-respecting 1911 shooter would be using small primers?

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Old 04-28-2012, 11:26   #12
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What variety of self-respecting 1911 shooter would be using small primers?

Ah, could those possibly include STI 9mm's along with a variety of other makes.

And before you continue with your 9mm is an under-power sissy round please not that experienced combat shooters are well versed in overcoming this urban myth.

One of two methods are traditionally employed when engaging an adversary while armed with a 9mm.

1) Simply shoot the adversary enough times that the sheer weight of the lead keeps him from chasing after you.

2) Again, shoot the adversary enough times that the combined bullets momentum causes the aggressor to stumble back into a waterway where the accumulated weight of the shots leads to his death by drowning. (Since you can't swing a dead cat in Florida without hitting a canal or man-made lake this is the preferred method in the land of foreigners and mosquitoes.

You flatlanders just don't understand effective combat techniques.


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Old 04-28-2012, 12:09   #13
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And that's why the 1911 only holds 7+1. That's all they need! It's only the plastic 9mm's that have to have 17 rounds to get the job done. And the 40 Short & Wimpy...

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Old 04-28-2012, 13:47   #14
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What variety of self-respecting 1911 shooter would be using small primers?
You rang?
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Old 04-28-2012, 13:52   #15
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Rifle primers have a thicker cup then pistol primers so they're normally just a bit longer then pistol primers.
True for large rifle/pistol primers. Not true for the small rifle/pistol primers.

For higher pressure pistol ammo I have no problem at all subbing rifle for pistol primers. In fact I loaded about 5,000 rounds of 9x19 and 40 S&W a couple weekends ago with small rifle primers.

In 45 GAP it is a toss-up. In 38 Special, always small pistol as my 686 and 627 has a very light trigger and it wont light off rifle primers 100% of the time.
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Old 04-28-2012, 13:55   #16
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What choo shooting? .38 super comp?
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:37   #17
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What choo shooting? .38 super comp?
9x19.

Supercomp brass is too friggin expensive leaving me less money left for hookers and blow. (See Jack, I am learning)
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:38   #18
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9mm 1911. Both you and Jack.

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Wrong Zombie. This is me.

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Old 04-29-2012, 18:32   #21
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Alright... Hozer's in the clear... let's see what you got, Jack.
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Wrong Zombie. This is me.

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Instead of limp wristing Hozer has perfected the technique of limp body.


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My buddy uses them in his .40 s&w, he swears by them.
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