[wrenrj1]

Just had to share this with you all. Thanks for your service!

A rookie police officer pulled a biker over for speeding and had the following exchange:
• Officer: May I see your driver's license?
• Biker: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI.
• Officer: May I see the owner's card for this vehicle?
• Biker: It's not my bike. I stole it.
• Officer: The motorcycle is stolen?
• Biker: That's right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner's card in the tool bag when I was putting my gun in there.
Officer: There's a gun in the tool bag?
• Biker: Yes sir. That's where I put it after I shot and killed the dude who owns this bike and stuffed his dope in the saddle bags.
• Officer: There's drugs in the saddle bags too?!?!?
• Biker: Yes, sir. Hearing this, the rookie immediately called his captain. The biker was quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the biker to handle the tense situation:
• Captain: Sir, can I see your license?
• Biker: Sure. Here it is. It was valid.
• Captain: Who's motorcycle is this?
• Biker: It's mine, officer. Here's the registration.
• Captain: Could you slowly open your tool bag so I can see if there's a gun in it?
• Biker: Yes, sir, but there's no gun in it. Sure enough, there was nothing in the tool bag.
• Captain: Would you mind opening your saddle bags? I was told you said there's drugs in them.
• Biker: No problem. The saddle bags were opened; no drugs.
• Captain: I don't understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told him you didn't have a license, stole this motorcycle, had a gun in the tool bag, and that there were drugs in the saddle bags.
• Biker: Yeah, I'll bet he told you I was speeding, too.

[RyanNREMTP]

Oldie but goodie.

[MeefZah]

• Biker: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI.

The joke fails at line 2. He already would be under arrest upon uttering this statement to me.

[smokeross]

Originally Posted by MeefZah

The joke fails at line 2. He already would be under arrest upon uttering this statement to me.

But the Officer in the joke was a ROOKIE.

[amacro]

Originally Posted by wrenrj1

Just had to share this with you all. Thanks for your service!

A rookie police officer pulled a biker over for speeding and had the following exchange:
• Officer: May I see your driver's license?
• Biker: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI.
• Officer: May I see the owner's card for this vehicle?
• Biker: It's not my bike. I stole it.
• Officer: The motorcycle is stolen?
• Biker: That's right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner's card in the tool bag when I was putting my gun in there.
Officer: There's a gun in the tool bag?
• Biker: Yes sir. That's where I put it after I shot and killed the dude who owns this bike and stuffed his dope in the saddle bags.
• Officer: There's drugs in the saddle bags too?!?!?
• Biker: Yes, sir. Hearing this, the rookie immediately called his captain. The biker was quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the biker to handle the tense situation:
• Captain: Sir, can I see your license?
• Biker: Sure. Here it is. It was valid.
• Captain: Who's motorcycle is this?
• Biker: It's mine, officer. Here's the registration.
• Captain: Could you slowly open your tool bag so I can see if there's a gun in it?
• Biker: Yes, sir, but there's no gun in it. Sure enough, there was nothing in the tool bag.
• Captain: Would you mind opening your saddle bags? I was told you said there's drugs in them.
• Biker: No problem. The saddle bags were opened; no drugs.
• Captain: I don't understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told him you didn't have a license, stole this motorcycle, had a gun in the tool bag, and that there were drugs in the saddle bags.
• Biker: Yeah, I'll bet he told you I was speeding, too.

That's really funny! lol!

[robin303]

[Panzergrenadier1979]

Originally Posted by MeefZah

The joke fails at line 2. He already would be under arrest upon uttering this statement to me.

Unless he was DUI at the time, this would not apply in PA.

[Dalton Wayne]

He didn't have his hat on, and followed him for seven miles

[MeefZah]

Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

Unless he was DUI at the time, this would not apply in PA.

Ohio's peckerhead legislature "decriminalized" DUS here, too. Used to be an M1, now it's unclassified.

Unless it's an OVI suspension, or they have a prior DUS conviction in 12 mo, or it's a 12 point suspension. Those are still arrestable / M1s. So here, telling me you are suspended for an OVI means you get to go to jail, and then you get to serve a mandatory 3 days upon conviction.

[Panzergrenadier1979]

Originally Posted by MeefZah

Ohio's peckerhead legislature "decriminalized" DUS here, too. Used to be an M1, now it's unclassified.

Unless it's an OVI suspension, or they have a prior DUS conviction in 12 mo, or it's a 12 point suspension. Those are still arrestable / M1s. So here, telling me you are suspended for an OVI means you get to go to jail, and then you get to serve a mandatory 3 days upon conviction.

Nope. Not in the independent nation/state of Pennsylvania. The only thing I can do to a sober DUI related DUS driver is cite them. I suppose I could tow their vehicle.....but I cannot arrest them in this 18th century minded embarrassment of a state. (we also can't buy beer from an standard grocery store or buy a car from a dealership on Sundays).

Only the Most Holy state police are permitted to make arrests for 99% summary violations of the vehicle code. The only time us lowly and unworthy municipal peons can arrest a driver is if they are out of state. A driver refuses to sign a citation? Wow! Big deal. I can't do a friggin' thing except write "refused to sign" on the signature line.

This silly state makes me more and more disgusted each and every day. My PD pays me well, so I put up with our idiotic township/borough system and a state police who make any and every political attempt possible to maintain iron clad control over all LE within the commonwealth.

If I cannot arrest a driver for driving while suspended, DUI related, then screw each and every citizen of this commonwealth; you get exactly what you deserve. This Virginian could not care less. Don't have a PD in your pathetic little 0.4 square mile borough? No problem! PSP will be happy to rush to your aid at 2am in under 2 hours when something goes "bump" in the night! Enjoy!

Now, let's talk about Radar.......

[MeefZah]

Does a DUS at least get jail time upon conviction?

[Panzergrenadier1979]

Originally Posted by MeefZah

Does a DUS at least get jail time upon conviction?

Not unless the operator was driving with a DUI related suspension.

A plain ol' DUS just gets additional suspension time tacked on.

Having their car towed makes me feel a little bit better.

[MeefZah]

Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

A plain ol' DUS just gets additional suspension time tacked on.

That reminds me of this screwy thing the local courts do... defendant don't show up for arraignment, they issue a "non arrest warrant", whereupon you go out and find the guy and then tell him "you better be in court this time, buddy"... it's like, hey judge, they don't care about coming to court the first time, they ain't gonna care about being told to go to court a second time.

Same theory, if they are driving under suspension thay ain't gonna stop because they are under more suspensions. They will stop if you tow their car, but then you trade one issue for another because sure as **** the next jalopy they get will be in someone elses name, making it harder to catch them DUS...

[KiloBravo]

Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

Nope. Not in the independent nation/state of Pennsylvania. The only thing I can do to a sober DUI related DUS driver is cite them. I suppose I could tow their vehicle.....but I cannot arrest them in this 18th century minded embarrassment of a state. (we also can't buy beer from an standard grocery store or buy a car from a dealership on Sundays).

Only the Most Holy state police are permitted to make arrests for 99% summary violations of the vehicle code. The only time us lowly and unworthy municipal peons can arrest a driver is if they are out of state. A driver refuses to sign a citation? Wow! Big deal. I can't do a friggin' thing except write "refused to sign" on the signature line.

This silly state makes me more and more disgusted each and every day. My PD pays me well, so I put up with our idiotic township/borough system and a state police who make any and every political attempt possible to maintain iron clad control over all LE within the commonwealth.

If I cannot arrest a driver for driving while suspended, DUI related, then screw each and every citizen of this commonwealth; you get exactly what you deserve. This Virginian could not care less. Don't have a PD in your pathetic little 0.4 square mile borough? No problem! PSP will be happy to rush to your aid at 2am in under 2 hours when something goes "bump" in the night! Enjoy!

Now, let's talk about Radar.......

Sorry Panzer. For what it is worth, I agree with most of what you said. I am sorry most of that stuff is a drag. I promise to be the best decent human being of a Statie that I can be upon graduation.

I dont know if I PMd you before, but I got my official letter a couple of weeks ago. I start the academy on June 17th of this year.

[Panzergrenadier1979]

Originally Posted by KiloBravo

Sorry Panzer. For what it is worth, I agree with most of what you said. I am sorry most of that stuff is a drag. I promise to be the best decent human being of a Statie that I can be upon graduation.

I dont know if I PMd you before, but I got my official letter a couple of weeks ago. I start the academy on June 17th of this year.

Hey there! And here I just thought someone named KiloBravo had stolen DeerPredator's avatar!

Congrats BTW! I know you've worked hard for this.

PSP is one of the oldest and most prestigious LE organizations in the country. They also are in a state with a municipal government system that guarantees that most local police departments will not only be small, but will have very limited budgets. In 2012 it's not so bad, in 1980 it was flat-out ridiculous; municipal cops having literally no LE training and yet having arrest powers. I cannot imagine what a rookie PSP trooper would have thought backing up a 5 year veteran local police officer who had not yet been to a police academy..... no wonder troopers gained a reputation for looking down on local PDs. Perhaps I'd have done the same thing, who knows?

However, PSP, it's 2012. Give me radar. I'll back you up and I'll appreciate every time you back me up. But give me radar. Stop pretending that the developers of radar made it specifically for PSP. When a PSP troopers tells me that he thinks that local police will just use radar to raise revenue I want to tell him to get bent. How does a PSP trooper insult every municipal cop in the country without even realizing it? I think that PSP should show up every time we set up our ENRADD system and watch us run around in traffic trying to get hit by semis. It's about officer safety, it's NOT about allowing PSP to keep a one-up over municipal PDs. There is absolutely NO reason that a local cop should be prevented from using something that is, at the end of the day, just another tool to get a job done.

In the meantime; irregardless of how much PSP opposes these issues, I will support every political step taken to:

-Give radar to local PDs
-Enact county-wide law enforcement
-Give county sheriffs full police powers

[MeefZah]

You don't have radar?????????????????????

[KiloBravo]

Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

Hey there! And here I just thought someone named KiloBravo had stolen DeerPredator's avatar!

Congrats BTW! I know you've worked hard for this.

PSP is one of the oldest and most prestigious LE organizations in the country. They also are in a state with a municipal government system that guarantees that most local police departments will not only be small, but will have very limited budgets. In 2012 it's not so bad, in 1980 it was flat-out ridiculous; municipal cops having literally no LE training and yet having arrest powers. I cannot imagine what a rookie PSP trooper would have thought backing up a 5 year veteran local police officer who had not yet been to a police academy..... no wonder troopers gained a reputation for looking down on local PDs. Perhaps I'd have done the same thing, who knows?

However, PSP, it's 2012. Give me radar. I'll back you up and I'll appreciate every time you back me up. But give me radar. Stop pretending that the developers of radar made it specifically for PSP. When a PSP troopers tells me that he thinks that local police will just use radar to raise revenue I want to tell him to get bent. How does a PSP trooper insult every municipal cop in the country without even realizing it? I think that PSP should show up every time we set up our ENRADD system and watch us run around in traffic trying to get hit by semis. It's about officer safety, it's NOT about allowing PSP to keep a one-up over municipal PDs. There is absolutely NO reason that a local cop should be prevented from using something that is, at the end of the day, just another tool to get a job done.

In the meantime; irregardless of how much PSP opposes these issues, I will support every political step taken to:

-Give radar to local PDs
-Enact county-wide law enforcement
-Give county sheriffs full police powers

I absolutley 100% agree with you! And thanks for the kind words. I agree that municipal and city guys need to have access to RADAR and be able to use it as they see fit. Whatever Trooper actually tells you he/she thinks you would just use it to raise revenue, well...those people need to have their head examined. As far as I am concerned, all LE officers are all on the same team doing the same job. We all need as many tools and resources as possible to get that job done safely and effectively.

Panzer, I have talked to you enough and know your area well enough to know I would be proud as hell to roll as backup to any of your calls, any day of the week! I would be honored if we get to work together some day.

[RocPO]

Originally Posted by KiloBravo

As far as I am concerned, all LE officers are all on the same team doing the same job.

Oh if I could only go back to believing that. Give it a year street time, and we'll discuss this topic again.

With seeing how screwed up some of these other states are NY ain't that bad.

[KiloBravo]

Originally Posted by RocPO

Oh if I could only go back to believing that. Give it a year street time, and we'll discuss this topic again.

With seeing how screwed up some of these other states are NY ain't that bad.

I admit I might be living in fairly tail land believing that, but that is my own personal opinion on the matter. I am going to always try to backup my brothers and sisters in blue when they need me to, and always support them, regardless of what color uniform they wear.

[wprebeck]

Originally Posted by KiloBravo

I admit I might be living in fairly tail land believing that, but that is my own personal opinion on the matter. I am going to always try to backup my brothers and sisters in blue when they need me to, and always support them, regardless of what color uniform they wear.

Revisit this statement after the academy - let us know if the brainwashing attempt was successful.

[KiloBravo]

Originally Posted by wprebeck

Revisit this statement after the academy - let us know if the brainwashing attempt was successful.

You got it!

[Panzergrenadier1979]

Originally Posted by MeefZah

You don't have radar?????????????????????

Nope.

The 49 states that do allow municipal officers to use radar MUST be doing something wrong.......

Gawd I hate PA.

[DoogieHowser]

Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

Nope.

The 49 states that do allow municipal officers to use radar MUST be doing something wrong.......

Gawd I hate PA.

What about LIDAR? Put one over on em

[Panzergrenadier1979]

Originally Posted by DoogieHowser

What about LIDAR? Put one over on em

Back in the mid-1980s we had a chief (a feisty veteran of WWII and Vietnam who didn't give a crap what anyone thought about what he did) who painted a hairdrier black and ran traffic with it to slow cars down on a particular stretch of roadway. It worked very well at slowing down traffic. I believe that it made the local newspaper and there supposedly is an old black and white pick of the chief holding the hairdrier out of the window of his patrol car. I've heard that his family still has the old hairdrier. I'd love to get hold of it and put it on display in our police station.

It's a funny/true story that should be extremely embarrassing to the idiots who keep radar out of our hands.

[MeefZah]

Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

Nope.

The 49 states that do allow municipal officers to use radar MUST be doing something wrong.......

Gawd I hate PA.

If this has already been covered somewhere else then please point me there, but I have questions....

Is it an issue of not being certified to operate the radar? Or of courts not taking judicial notice of radar if used by anyone other than PSP? I mean, what is the reason?

Why couldn't your department buy a radar unit, certify the operator (or everyone), and start using it for speed enforcement? What would happen if your agency did?

I can't even imagine OSHP telling us we could or could not do something. Hell, we'd do it just because they told us we couldn't... and no radar, I mean, radar is the fundamental traffic enforcement tool. When people think of cops, they think of radar and getting a speeding ticket.

Does... not... compute...

So, in PA, no one but the state has radar? Meaning I can drive over the speed limit with reckless abandon in town? I just have to pay those damn tolls....