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Old 04-29-2012, 18:00   #1
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Is There Room For Moderates In The GOP?

Just that.

I've read a lot of posts this year that call fiscal or socially moderate Republicans everything from facists to nazis, to kooks.

Has the party gotten so intolerant that moderates are no longer wanted, needed or appreciated?

Just an observation.
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Old 04-29-2012, 18:04   #2
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The party has nothing but moderates and progressives infesting it. Conservatives and constitutionalists are the ones no longer tolerated.
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Old 04-29-2012, 18:12   #3
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Just that.

I've read a lot of posts this year that call fiscal or socially moderate Republicans everything from facists to nazis, to kooks.

Has the party gotten so intolerant that moderates are no longer wanted, needed or appreciated?

Just an observation.
What??? Where do you learn about the Republican Party, msnbc?

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Old 04-29-2012, 18:22   #4
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What??? Where do you learn about the Republican Party, msnbc?

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You just made my point better than I could have.

I am guessing I was voting GOP before you were on this earth. Hopefully in those decades I've learned a little. I've seen it evolve more in the last 10 years than the rest of time all together.
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Old 04-29-2012, 18:22   #5
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The party has nothing but moderates and progressives infesting it. Conservatives and constitutionalists are the ones no longer tolerated.

Very true, but the republican party, even with all it's flaws, is still the home of conservatism and the best chance for defeating a socialist Obama.

And it will change back to a more conservative party as more and more TEA party candidates get elected.

Things run in cycles, and you'll see the republican party wave the conservative banner once again.

You just got to have a little faith.
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Old 04-29-2012, 18:44   #6
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This is how I feel about the repubs.
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Old 04-29-2012, 19:06   #7
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A more apt question might be: "Is there room for conservatives?"
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Old 04-29-2012, 20:33   #8
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Very true, but the republican party, even with all it's flaws, is still the home of conservatism and the best chance for defeating a socialist Obama.

And it will change back to a more conservative party as more and more TEA party candidates get elected.

Things run in cycles, and you'll see the republican party wave the conservative banner once again.

You just got to have a little faith.
Are you supporting a political philosophy or a sport's team?
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Old 04-29-2012, 20:37   #9
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A more apt question might be: "Is there room for conservatives?"
Very little.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:43   #10
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the gop is infested with moderates, neo-cons and other slack jawed marxist.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:15   #11
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No there isn't room for moderates: The party already has it's Grahams, Snowes, McConnells, Boehners, Lugars, Romneys, and Murkowskis and has no conceivable need for any more.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:35   #12
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:39   #13
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Just that.

I've read a lot of posts this year that call fiscal or socially moderate Republicans everything from facists to nazis, to kooks.

Has the party gotten so intolerant that moderates are no longer wanted, needed or appreciated?

Just an observation.
What's a fiscally moderate Republican? Somebody halfway between GWB and Ron Paul? Who qualifies as that, and what names were they called?
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:47   #14
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"The debate in the Republican Party needs to be between libertarians and conservatives, that's what our party needs to be about. There's no longer room for moderates and liberals because we don't have any money to spend, so I don't want to be debating with anyone who wants to grow government." Jim DeMint.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:51   #15
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Just that.

I've read a lot of posts this year that call fiscal or socially moderate Republicans everything from facists to nazis, to kooks.

Has the party gotten so intolerant that moderates are no longer wanted, needed or appreciated?

Just an observation.
That's a ludicrous assertion. Every Republican president since Reagan has been liberal. Down to and including George (Open Borders and Big Government) Bush.

Our last candidate for the presidency (McLame) was liberal.

Our next candidate doubtless will be also.

I feel it is conservatives who no longer have a home in the Republican party. When you have voters who have to hold their nose to vote, and who vote simply to defeat the DemonRats, then you've got a problem.
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Moderates?????? Have you heard of Mitt Romney?
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Old 04-30-2012, 17:57   #17
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Old 04-30-2012, 19:20   #18
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Are you a Moderate or a closet liberal? What is your position on Gay marriage? Gun control? Social programs, do you believe in the COTUS as written? Do you like Big Government? Did you agree with Obamamoa's bailout's, trillion dollar dept? Please tell us what does a "Moderate" believe in.
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Old 04-30-2012, 19:37   #19
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Well, is there room for moderates on Glock Talk?


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Old 04-30-2012, 19:41   #20
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Jonesee
Are you a Moderate or a closet liberal? What is your position on Gay marriage? Gun control? Social programs, do you believe in the COTUS as written? Do you like Big Government? Did you agree with Obamamoa's bailout's, trillion dollar dept? Please tell us what does a "Moderate" believe in.

My guess is a "moderate":

-Doesn't care one way or another about gay marriage, but would view it as protected under the equal protections clause of the 14th amendment if he HAD to have an opinion on the matter.
-Is Pro 2nd Amendment, against gun control.
-Is for downsizing social programs, putting limitations on welfare/govt. assistance etc.
-Believes in the Constitution, as stated previously, and recognizes it to be what all laws in the country need to be held applicable to, regardless of his own ideological views based around various reasons, including religion.
-Against big government. Especially government's habit of trying to micromanage peoples lives (see marriage, gun control, social programs).
-Against corporate bailouts (see previous statement about micromanaging).


At least those are my views, and I tend to consider myself a "moderate" conservative.


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