[frank4570]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

So now I'm a nobody????

[/sarcasm]

Reverse the order that the republican states go in the primary, let the largest 10 red states go first, have it all on the same day. I'd like to try any of those.

That could be costly for some very powerful people.

[Ruble Noon]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Have you considered that if you keep hearing it from multiple people, that just maybe, it's a real phenomena??

And maybe we are talking about him due to his supporters, but a lot of that discussion has been unhelpful for him.

"There is only one thing worse than being talked about and that is NOT being talked about."

Oscar Wilde

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by frank4570

That could be costly for some very powerful people.

I'm not seeing the downside there, at least if achieved. May make it harder to do.

[frank4570]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

I'm not seeing the downside there, at least if achieved. May make it harder to do.

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[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Ruble Noon

"There is only one thing worse than being talked about and that is NOT being talked about."

Oscar Wilde

Ask George Zimmerman about that.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by frank4570

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Bring it on. I get my own commercials too, right?

[Stubudd]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Have you considered that if you keep hearing it from multiple people, that just maybe, it's a real phenomena??

And maybe we are talking about him due to his supporters, but a lot of that discussion has been unhelpful for him.

I just said i know it's a real phenomena- i know some of you have had your feelings hurt- i'm saying it's not even worth mentioning because it's a thousand times outweighed by the good. If a relative few had to get their feelings hurt by over-enthusiastic supporters in the process of bringing attention to the only conservative in the race for either party, it was worth it.

A lot more of the discussion has been helpful than unhelpful, obviously. He's doubled or tripled his supporters, or maybe even more i don't know, from the last time. You and JB's and G-19's feelings are a relative low priority, i'm afraid.

[Stubudd]

Originally Posted by frank4570

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i just read the other day where the proportion of negative ads has increased some crazy percentage in all campaigns nationwide, from 30% to 75% or something crazy like that- just from 2008

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Stubudd

I just said i know it's a real phenomena- i know some of you have had your feelings hurt- i'm saying it's not even worth mentioning because it's a thousand times outweighed by the good. If a relative few had to get their feelings hurt by over-enthusiastic supporters in the process of bringing attention to the only conservative in the race for either party, it was worth it.

A lot more of the discussion has been helpful than unhelpful, obviously. He's doubled or tripled his supporters, or maybe even more i don't know, from the last time. You and JB's and G-19's feelings are a relative low priority, i'm afraid.

A thousand times better? And how's that workin' out for ya?

It might be good from your perspective, but Ron is not on a glide path to get this nomination. Maybe he is on his way to A nomination, but not likely the one he is running for now.


It what it is, why it is that way probably involves multiple factors.

[QNman]

Originally Posted by Stubudd

You guys keep saying this but it still doesn't make any sense. Ron Paul's supporters are the only reason we're still talking about him. His enthusiast supporters have done 1000x more for him than against him. I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt along the way.

What really happened is this- some of you that for years have been calling the other side libtards, big government crazies and everything else suddenly found yourselves in the same boat with them. You've accepted a liberal nominee after all the years of putting them down, and you've had your feelings hurt by people pointing it out. Some of you, when finally faced with a real conservative choice versus more of the same big government, discovered you weren't really so different from the other side as you liked to believe, and you're mad because people have pointed it out to you. Cry me a river over those cruel ronulans and make some more troll threads.

Once again, hubris abounds aplenty in the true believers. "I'm smarter/more conrvative/prettier than you" doesn't make it true just because you said so.

And thank you for proving the point while disagreeing with it. The irony is rich.

[QNman]

Originally Posted by Stubudd

i just read the other day where the proportion of negative ads has increased some crazy percentage in all campaigns nationwide, from 30% to 75% or something crazy like that- just from 2008

Bull manure. There is no way in hades you can convince me only 30% of the ads in 2008 were negative.

[Ruble Noon]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Ask George Zimmerman about that.

It sounds like people have donated enough money to cover his legal expenses since everyone started talking about him.

[Stubudd]

Originally Posted by QNman

Once again, hubris abounds aplenty in the true believers. "I'm smarter/more conrvative/prettier than you" doesn't make it true just because you said so.

And thank you for proving the point while disagreeing with it. The irony is rich.

Because i said so doesn't mean anything. Are you saying mitt romney is a conservative? No? Then i feel pretty good about saying anybody that votes for him isn't much of a conservative either. Since when can you call yourself a conservative and also vote for almost the mirror image of barack obama? Obviously we have different ideas of what is conservative and what isn't, i guess that's why we won't agree.

And what point have i proven- that now i hurt your feelings too, add you to the list? All the feelings in the world the ronulans hurt won't add up to anywhere near the attention and support they've brought to him, that's all i'm saying. Not even close. His enthusiastic support has been his only chance the whole way.

[Stubudd]

Originally Posted by QNman

Bull manure. There is no way in hades you can convince me only 30% of the ads in 2008 were negative.

it's even worse than than my guess

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may...ction-20120503

[Stubudd]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

A thousand times better? And how's that workin' out for ya?

It might be good from your perspective, but Ron is not on a glide path to get this nomination. Maybe he is on his way to A nomination, but not likely the one he is running for now.


It what it is, why it is that way probably involves multiple factors.

Well, if it really is a thousand times better, then it's a thousand times better....



If it's ten times better, then it's ten times better. Whatever. It's better than it would have been. Saying ron paul's extremely enthusiastic supporters and all that comes with them, good and bad, has been anything but a massive, massive net benefit to his cause is absurd- that's all i'm trying to say. "RP's supporters are his worst enemies" is ridiculous, no matter how many times you've said it. They are the best thing he has going.

However it works out, it will be better than it would have been otherwise.

[QNman]

Originally Posted by Stubudd

Because i said so doesn't mean anything. Are you saying mitt romney is a conservative? No? Then i feel pretty good about saying anybody that votes for him isn't much of a conservative either. Since when can you call yourself a conservative and also vote for almost the mirror image of barack obama? Obviously we have different ideas of what is conservative and what isn't, i guess that's why we won't agree.

And what point have i proven- that now i hurt your feelings too, add you to the list? All the feelings in the world the ronulans hurt won't add up to anywhere near the attention and support they've brought to him, that's all i'm saying. Not even close. His enthusiastic support has been his only chance the whole way.

Stubby, you couldn't hurt my feelings with a baseball bat. I know who I am and know the difference between being a "real conservative" and a realistic businessman. I've voted "on principle" twice and suffered the consequences of it.

Perhaps your boss can handle another four years of uncertainty and the real kickoff of Obamacare. Me, I'd like to think I can, but I don't want to find out. Even if it's Romney who changes that.

[QNman]

Originally Posted by Stubudd

it's even worse than than my guess

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may...ction-20120503

Ah... "this time in 2008". When the GOP had already settled on McCain, and Obama was proclaiming "four more years of a failed Bush policy". I guess "negative" all depends on your point of view.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Ruble Noon

It sounds like people have donated enough money to cover his legal expenses since everyone started talking about him.

Day late and a dollar short.


Since people have been talking about him, he has been arrested and charged with second degree murder, after being released without charges.

Now I don't know George, but I'm almost certain that if his situation had only taken 6 lines in the local newspaper without his name mentioned, and went away with no charges files, he'd be a lot happier today. Try to call him or one of his family members, oh, no, wait, they are all in hiding fearing for their lives.



Consider the totality of the situation, and not just the slanted spin. It'll make a lot more sense then.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Stubudd

Well, if it really is a thousand times better, then it's a thousand times better....



If it's ten times better, then it's ten times better. Whatever. It's better than it would have been. Saying ron paul's extremely enthusiastic supporters and all that comes with them, good and bad, has been anything but a massive, massive net benefit to his cause is absurd- that's all i'm trying to say. "RP's supporters are his worst enemies" is ridiculous, no matter how many times you've said it. They are the best thing he has going.

However it works out, it will be better than it would have been otherwise.

That remains to be seen, and if you'll think about it from a few different perspectives, and wait an hour or two so later to calm down, you'll come back and admit it.

[Stubudd]

Originally Posted by QNman

Stubby, you couldn't hurt my feelings with a baseball bat. I know who I am and know the difference between being a "real conservative" and a realistic businessman. I've voted "on principle" twice and suffered the consequences of it.

Perhaps your boss can handle another four years of uncertainty and the real kickoff of Obamacare. Me, I'd like to think I can, but I don't want to find out. Even if it's Romney who changes that.

well, best of luck with that. i guess you mean you actually believe a solitary word this guy is saying right now while he's campaigning will have any bearing whatsoever one what he would do if he wins. i don't. i think that's positively unrealistic of you, actually.

[evlbruce]

Originally Posted by G19G20

Funny watching GTPI posters who only a couple months ago were yelling about how Paul had no chance and was an afterthought, or whatever, now seeing the writing on the wall regarding delegates and getting just plain sour and angry about it.

I think your half right.

With the economy in the tank, his foreign and green energy policies in shambles, his agencies and cabinet rife with cronyism and graft, and yet Obama is still ahead of the presumptive "electable" Republican candidate in most polls. What's worse is that the economy is limping along and may not collapse until well after November.

Mittenistas are mad because they nominated a marginal candidate who is performing terribly in what should be an easy election.

Romney's Supporters

Romney's Supporters

[Ruble Noon]

Originally Posted by evlbruce

I think your half right.

With the economy in the tank, his foreign and green energy policies in shambles, his agencies and cabinet rife with cronyism and graft, and yet Obama is still ahead of the presumptive "electable" Republican candidate in most polls. What's worse is that the economy is limping along and may not collapse until well after November.

Mittenistas are mad because they nominated a marginal candidate who is performing terribly in what should be an easy election.

Romney's Supporters

Great campaign ad.

[Stubudd]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

That remains to be seen, and if you'll think about it from a few different perspectives, and wait an hour or two so later to calm down, you'll come back and admit it.

Lol, what are you talking about Doc? Am i supposed to think golly if i had only talked sweeter to you, you'd be a ron paul supporter? Lol. I've said it at least three times- RP's supporters have been his greatest asset in this campaign. That's a fact. They've taken delegates, they've raised tons of money, they've done everything else, far out of proportion to any other candidate. He says it himself every day. If a few got their feelings hurt, that's too bad, but it was worth it. If they were "herd minded" enough to actually base their vote on what other people are saying or because somebody was rude, instead of what the candidates are doing and have done, they probably weren't gonna ever get it anyway, so what is there to think about?

[Ruble Noon]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Day late and a dollar short.


Since people have been talking about him, he has been arrested and charged with second degree murder, after being released without charges.

Now I don't know George, but I'm almost certain that if his situation had only taken 6 lines in the local newspaper without his name mentioned, and went away with no charges files, he'd be a lot happier today. Try to call him or one of his family members, oh, no, wait, they are all in hiding fearing for their lives.




Consider the totality of the situation, and not just the slanted spin. It'll make a lot more sense then.

Yeah I'm sure he would like to go back to the time before his name was known nationally.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Stubudd

Lol, what are you talking about Doc? Am i supposed to think golly if i had only talked sweeter to you, you'd be a ron paul supporter? Lol. I've said it at least three times- RP's supporters have been his greatest asset in this campaign. That's a fact. They've taken delegates, they've raised tons of money, they've done everything else, far out of proportion to any other candidate. He says it himself every day. If a few got their feelings hurt, that's too bad, but it was worth it. If they were "herd minded" enough to actually base their vote on what other people are saying or because somebody was rude, instead of what the candidates are doing and have done, they probably weren't gonna ever get it anyway, so what is there to think about?

Skipped that free piece of advice I see.

You? I honestly do not remember you being part of my decision making process at all.

Your post is a perfect example. You rant when you should be learning. Just because there are criticisms, doesn't mean you have to fly off on a booze fueled insult laced rant.

I can't help it if you aren't very good at convincing people to support your candidate, but I can point to some of the reasons that happened.

It's not my fault Paul will not be the nominee, it's yours, and many like you, and for more than one reason. You didn't try hard enough, you didn't control your emotions, you didn't dig deep enough for those money bombs, you didn't respect others, and in the end, you didn't get enough votes. None of the people I have talked to about Paul have voted yet. What about the people you talked to paul about. How effective were you?

Don't blame the guy in the stands when you get thrown out at first.