[boone10]

Originally Posted by Cwlongshot

A PMR-30..... Plenty of power, good accuracy, light weight with lots of capacity! Extra rounds small and inexpensive LOTS can be carried.

Thats, IF I ever get one! LOL

CW

cool gun, but .22 mag ammo generally cost the same or more than centerfire

[ronin.45]

Originally Posted by boone10

cool gun, but .22 mag ammo generally cost the same or more than centerfire

True. Around here it's about the same as 9mm.

Most of our smaller shops don't even stock it and bigger shops tend to only have a few bricks on hand for varminters.

[Cwlongshot]

Originally Posted by boone10

cool gun, but .22 mag ammo generally cost the same or more than centerfire

Show me store bought hollow point 50 round boxes for 8-9$ a box and I'll be more inclined to agree with you.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/68065-5.html

Even if you find sale prices close to these 22mag prices you can carry almost three to one in ammo and only have power a step behind the 9mm. All with less recoil and generally better accuracy from the 22Mag
CW

[Cwlongshot]

Originally Posted by Haldor

A suppressor can be very effective on .22 LR. as in the loudest thing you hear is the sound action clacking back and forth. You need to use subsonic ammo to get that level of suppression. For a 5.7 suppressor to really be useful would require subsonic ammo in which case why not just a .22 LR?

My 9mm suppressor makes my Glock hearing safe (I don't need to wear hearing protection to shoot it), but it most definitely is not Hollywood quiet. It sounds about like somebody slamming a door hard.

The quietest thing of all is an integrally suppressed .22 LR rifle. You can get integral suppressed barrels for Ruger 10/22 rifles that include bleed-off holes to keep normal ammo subsonic. These look just like a normal bull barrel on your rifle (no longer than normal). Several vendors make them.

These are excellent points!

I Immeadiately chose a handgun but a short barreled suppressed 10/22 might just be a better primary backed up with the pistol. Big mags available, even better accuracy that's easier yo teach accuracy to inexperienced. Carry even more and cheaper ammo all while being even more readily available.

My 22m choice would not suppress so well. Maybe with those Dyna points. It that they are plated if ok for the suppressor.

CW

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by bigchuck83

for keeping noise down to heck with a gun , i'm going old school and using bow and arrow. a bit rusty but used to be a good shot with a bow., as for sidearm i'll take my Beretta m9a1, and maybe a glock 21 sf as well

I love the Beretta M9A1, a fantastic choice!

[Amplified]

[QUOTE=The_Gun_Guru;18924059]For a sidearm I gotta go with my PMR-30 or CZ75 SP-01 Tactical:







Good choices.

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by JD_19x9

Suppressed Glock 17 with 33 round magazine. One quiet shot take-down...

Excellent.

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by GTS197

Oh, and fellas....we appear to have our own gun magazine out now

[wjv]

Originally Posted by The_Gun_Guru

For a sidearm I gotta go with my PMR-30 or CZ75 SP-01 Tactical:



300 rounds of .22 Mag. . .
That would be loud enough to wake the dead!



Arsenal!!!


I'm just jealous!

five words to make the

[xRecon]

G23 and H&K P30 .40.

[glock2740]

.460S&W




.44 Magnum, .454 Casull and .460S&W side by side by side.

[The_Gun_Guru]

Originally Posted by HAMMERHEAD

That's a joke, right?
Please don't tell me you really have a knife mounted on your CZ.
That is soooooooo lame.

Dude, relax, it's just a novelty item.......made by CZ though. They don't even sell them anymore, so it's more of a collectible than anything else.

Don't get your panties in a bunch!


TGG

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by glock2740

.460S&W




.44 Magnum, .454 Casull and .460S&W side by side by side.

S&W makes the best revolvers IMO.

[sigman69]

a suppressed ruger 10/22 or ruger 22/45. and my glock 19 and stag carbine.....the glock and stag for human predators.

[wavetrain75]

Reliability
Capacity
Portability (sidearm, right? Not a big deal)

In that order.

Ruger MK / Browning Buckmark: Win on portability. Lose on capacity (I my mind), although big win with total number of rounds an individual can carry. I don't think a .22 lr auto will continue to function once it's covered in zombie entrails. If you have first hand experience feel free to correct me.

PMR 30: Big win on capacity and portability. I think the jury may still be out on reliability. If it passes, it would be my #1 choice and paired with a good bolt gun should cover anything the zombies dish out.

9mm: Glock, Springfield, Browning, Sig Saur, etc. Lots of good choices with large magazines. Heavier than .22 but lots of capacity with rock solid reliability. Many 9mm carbines to make a companion piece.

.40, .45: Loses on weight and capacity while adding nothing to effectiveness against zombies. Perfectly good if you can live with that.

*WINNER* Glock 19 and KelTec Sub 2000 with Glock mags.

PMR 30 if proven reliable would be very effective.

[wavetrain75]

With all due respect, that's a terrible choice for zombies. Good many other things, but terrible for zombies.

Originally Posted by glock2740

.460S&W

[Glockdude1]

Originally Posted by wavetrain75

With all due respect, that's a terrible choice for zombies. Good many other things, but terrible for zombies.

I tend to disagree.........

[Spiffums]

<<<<<< That's what I'd use.

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by Spiffums

<<<<<< That's what I'd use.

Good choice.

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by wavetrain75

Reliability
Capacity
Portability (sidearm, right? Not a big deal)

In that order.

Ruger MK / Browning Buckmark: Win on portability. Lose on capacity (I my mind), although big win with total number of rounds an individual can carry. I don't think a .22 lr auto will continue to function once it's covered in zombie entrails. If you have first hand experience feel free to correct me.

PMR 30: Big win on capacity and portability. I think the jury may still be out on reliability. If it passes, it would be my #1 choice and paired with a good bolt gun should cover anything the zombies dish out.

9mm: Glock, Springfield, Browning, Sig Saur, etc. Lots of good choices with large magazines. Heavier than .22 but lots of capacity with rock solid reliability. Many 9mm carbines to make a companion piece.

.40, .45: Loses on weight and capacity while adding nothing to effectiveness against zombies. Perfectly good if you can live with that.

*WINNER* Glock 19 and KelTec Sub 2000 with Glock mags.

PMR 30 if proven reliable would be very effective.

The G19 is my favorite Glock and an excellent choice as a sidearm.

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by sigman69

a suppressed ruger 10/22 or ruger 22/45. and my glock 19 and stag carbine.....the glock and stag for human predators.

Good choices.

[Folsom_Prison]

G19C

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by G19_AJ

G19C

Excellent.

[Folsom_Prison]

Originally Posted by Amplified

Excellent.

I've got a 10/22, 410, 50 cal black powder and a 30-30 handy as well but the 19 would be my first choice.

[Amplified]

Originally Posted by G19_AJ

I've got a 10/22, 410, 50 cal black powder and a 30-30 handy as well but the 19 would be my first choice.

It's good to have options.