[mayhem23]

A friend is off loading 8 pounds of Titegroup and I have never reloaded with it. Does anyone have any pros or cons on this powder?

[Colorado4Wheel]

Wait for it......

[DoctaGlockta]

Originally Posted by mayhem23

A friend is off loading 8 pounds of Titegroup and I have never reloaded with it. Does anyone have any pros or cons on this powder?

Ask you friend why he is 'off loading' it.

You can also ask Fred.

[fredj338]

Originally Posted by DoctaGlockta

Ask you friend why he is 'off loading' it.

You can also ask Fred.

Not gonna do it! I am really tempted, but it's too close to Friday to raise my BP.

[cysoto]

Originally Posted by mayhem23

A friend is off loading 8 pounds of Titegroup and I have never reloaded with it. Does anyone have any pros or cons on this powder?

I use it for both 9mm as well as .40 S&W and I like it a lot.

Pros:
It is easily found on any sporting goods store, it is affordable, the recoil impulse is very manageable and accuracy is great.

Cons:
It is somewhat dirty.

What calibers are you planning to use TG for?

[Murphy's Law]

I've been using TG for my 45's and 40. Fast burning powder but seems to work great and takes very little to meet ones goals.

[ron59]

I'm using it under my 9mm 147gr Bear Creek moly bullet.
Works fine.

Not sure it does anything WSF/WST doesn't do, and those fill the case more (good thing to avoid double charge).

But I have the remainder of an 8lb jug of TG to use, and another too.

[shotgunred]

It is a fast burning powder that should only be used for light loads.

[F106 Fan]

There are two issues with fast powders: First, a full load won't fill the case enough to make a double charge readily apparent (powder spilling out of the case). Second, a little measuring error with a fast powder goes a long way toward ka-boom.

Fast powders are useful for making light loads but heavy loads are better made with a slower and more forgiving powder like Unique.

Slower powders and bulky powders (like Unique) are just safer to use.

Here is a burn rate chart:
http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

Richard

[Three-Five-Seven]

Titegroup is my current powder for competition loads in .38 Special caliber. It is very consistent. It is not temperature nor position sensitive.

Consistent recoil -- or feedback from the gun -- are essential for good performance in action shooting. Titegroup gives me this consistently.

It is not, however, for high intensity loads. At increased load densities, pressure ascends quickly, and dangerously. Light to medium loads only.

Not a good powder for new handloaders, however, because of the small size of the charges. And, not a good powder for manually advanced loading presses (DoDo happens).

[man.cave]

I like and use it for 380 and 9mm loads, if you find the right load for your gun it burns clean.

[Hoser]

I burn 18-24 lbs of it a year. Good stuff, depending on your use. Good for lower to mid range ammo. Not good for spicy to hot ammo.

[dla]

It is the best powder I've found for creating double-charges. Single-stage press users just love the stuff and the cool pictures of blown up guns they get to post.

[shotgunred]

If it was local and a good I would grab it. I use it for IDPA loads.

[8Ring]

Titegroup is a dark , dense ball powder that is intended for target to light duty loads in a variety of calibers. Therefore, be very careful using it in revolver rounds because a double charge will be difficult to notice. It fills pistol cartridges like 9mm fairly well so there should be not danger of a double charge.

It contains 38% nitroglycerine and therefore burns quite hot. This means your gun will get hot. This also means that you will get lots of smoke with lead bullets - yes, I know all lead bullets smoke but they smoke much more with Titegroup.

Titegroup is less position-sensitive than other powders in revolver loads. It is temperature sensitive, although perhaps not as much as some other powders.

Titegroup burns quite clean in high pressure rounds like 9mm and .357 magnum. Low pressure loads like .38 spl and Titegroup will be dirty, but almost every powder is dirty to some degree in .38 spl. It will leave some residue on the end of the barrel of your 9mm pistol, but it wipes off easily.

I get good results with Titegroup in 9mm with 124gr FMJ (4.0 to 4.2gr) and .357 mag with 158gr copper plated bullets (5.8 to 6.0gr).

I've tried Titegroup in .45 acp, but don't like it. For some reason it has very large extreme velocity spreads on any charge below maximum.

Chris

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by 8Ring

Titegroup is a dark , dense ball powder that is intended for target to light duty loads in a variety of calibers...............

Chris

Chris- Where do you get your technical info on this powder - or any powder?

[fredj338]

Originally Posted by SARDG

Chris- Where do you get your technical info on this powder - or any powder?

Most powder sites cover powder details as do most loading manuals.

[8Ring]

Originally Posted by SARDG

Chris- Where do you get your technical info on this powder - or any powder?

The information about the purpose and composition of Titegroup came from Hodgdon's Annual Manual. Information about its density came from adjusting my RCBS Uniflow compared to other powders I use. I check my loads with my chronometer and, when I shot competition during winter months, I would alsochrono the loads at low (30 degrees) temperatures. I discuss loads with other USPSA shooters.

Chris

[mayhem23]

Nice information, thanks. I probably go ahead and pick it up for shooting my 9mm and .40.

[Pmikeyg]

I just picked up some titegroup myself. Looking for a good load using 115 gr fmj bullets???

[Hoser]

Originally Posted by Pmikeyg

I just picked up some titegroup myself. Looking for a good load using 115 gr fmj bullets???

4.4 gns TG. 1.130 OAL. Mixed brass. Federal Primer. Velocity from a 5 inch barrel is around 1150 fps. Very accurate in my pistols.

[MrVvrroomm]

...words to live by

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by 8Ring

The information about the purpose and composition of Titegroup came from Hodgdon's Annual Manual. Information about its density came from adjusting my RCBS Uniflow compared to other powders I use. I check my loads with my chronometer and, when I shot competition during winter months, I would alsochrono the loads at low (30 degrees) temperatures. I discuss loads with other USPSA shooters.

Chris

I am wishing for a source for technical and practical information for all popular powders, perhaps cross-referenced with all popular bullets and their makeup/measurements - but not necessarily specific load-data. Something database-driven and searchable with level searches and filters.

I'll probably be wishing a long time...

[shotgunred]

You could copy the information from each manufacture's web site and then copy it into a database. You could do it and then wright your own "pet loads" sell access to the information and get rich.

[F106 Fan]

Originally Posted by SARDG

I am wishing for a source for technical and practical information for all popular powders, perhaps cross-referenced with all popular bullets and their makeup/measurements - but not necessarily specific load-data. Something database-driven and searchable with level searches and filters.

I'll probably be wishing a long time...

I'd be happy if I just had a database for my own reloads. I could tie all the load data to chronograph results and some subjective opinion on things like recoil impulse, target accuracy, etc. Maybe even link in some photos of targets (rifle only, my camera isn't big enough to capture my pistol groups). You would think, with all the code I have written over the last 43 years, that this would already be done.

Key Waters' "Pet Loads" is an independent resource. Most of the loads are quite old and I don't tend to use that manual very often.

Richard