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Old 05-07-2012, 10:18   #21
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This is a good video for the recoil sensitive.


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Old 05-07-2012, 12:30   #22
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Lmao! Stiff recoil from a puny little .35 cal? Are you serious? Try shooting the Smith .500 Mag or any Magnum caliber revolver, it makes these medium powered pistol calibers seem like BB guns.
"Stiff" is the term the poster I responded to used, but I understand his meaning. Like him I didn't initially like the recoil characteristics from my stock G-32, although it was not as bad as the .40S&W pistols I'd shot. The Wolff system I installed brought the recoil to just a bit more than my fine 9mm with +P+ ammo.

At any rate, it's all relative as the Magnums and one .50 caliber revolvers I have shot don't kick like a 12 gauge; and regardless of caliber or weapon if one can make it as shooter friendly as possible that's a good thing.
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Old 05-07-2012, 15:27   #23
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"Stiff" is the term the poster I responded to used, but I understand his meaning. Like him I didn't initially like the recoil characteristics from my stock G-32, although it was not as bad as the .40S&W pistols I'd shot. The Wolff system I installed brought the recoil to just a bit more than my fine 9mm with +P+ ammo.

At any rate, it's all relative as the Magnums and one .50 caliber revolvers I have shot don't kick like a 12 gauge; and regardless of caliber or weapon if one can make it as shooter friendly as possible that's a good thing.
Agreed. The recoil of the S&W 500 is quite manageable in the 8 3/8" barrel configuration. Although the gentleman in the video is using the 4" barrel model and shooting 700 grainers! That is one monstrous lead ingot!
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Old 05-07-2012, 15:32   #24
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It's astonishing to think that just one of those enormous 700 grain rounds weights over three times the weight of the 230 grain .45 ACP round! If ever rated in one shot stops, it would be at 100% lol!
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It's astonishing to think that just one of those enormous 700 grain rounds weights over three times the weight of the 230 grain .45 ACP round! If ever rated in one shot stops, it would be at 100% lol!
maybe, but you'd be a tard to carry one for SD. If you missed with your first shot you would have about 6 rds in you or a knife in your sternum from the BG before you got off a second shot.

gunfights are all about rapid accurate gunfire. hand cannons are for hunting bears or saying "everyone look at me" at the range
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Old 05-07-2012, 18:48   #26
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I have a 229 in .40 S&W. I'm however, not a fan of caliber conversion barrels etc. I like my guns to be one caliber and one only.
Even though the 357SIG barrel for a 229 isn't a "conversion? Other than the barrel, the .40 and 357 models are identical. Hell, SIG doesn't even mark caliber on them except for the barrel hood.

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Maybe, but for me the 229 is a no-go in terms of carryability. I wish it weren't as I love that gun.
My 229 is my go-to carry gun, and it hides just as well as my 32 did, even though I currently use a holster for it I'm not a big fan of.

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I was a bit put off shooting my first serious duty caliber handgun, my Generation 3 G-32 because of the "stiff" recoil you mention. After I installed a Wolff stainless steel guide rod and Wolff 20# spring the muzzle flip was noticeably reduced.

Not questioning your preferred choice, just mentioning what a tweak did for me.
Part of my problem with the 32 was that the grip size and shape did not work for my hands very well. Taking down the finger nubs helped, but not a lot. The only Glocks that fit my hand well are the 17/23/32 sized ones. The 229 is a different story, though.
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Old 05-07-2012, 22:22   #27
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maybe, but you'd be a tard to carry one for SD. If you missed with your first shot you would have about 6 rds in you or a knife in your sternum from the BG before you got off a second shot.

gunfights are all about rapid accurate gunfire. hand cannons are for hunting bears or saying "everyone look at me" at the range
Trust me, you'd be a tard well before I ever would be and I wasn't advocating carrying a .500 Mag as a CC or OC or any other purpose. I've owned an S&W 500 for 3 years now and the only time I've taken it along with me outside of range trips is when I've been bear hunting a total of two times. I was merely making a joking statement. Lighten up.

The day that you can tell me anything about gunfights is the day that free .50 BMG sniper rifles and free F-22 RAPTOR fighter jets are given out by the Government as 4th of July independence presents to all decent citizens of the US.

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Old 05-07-2012, 22:54   #28
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Even though the 357SIG barrel for a 229 isn't a "conversion? Other than the barrel, the .40 and 357 models are identical. Hell, SIG doesn't even mark caliber on them except for the barrel hood.
It is a conversion, no matter how effortless the process may be...

When I purchase a firearm, thoughts of which caliber is most suitable for the specific firearm is one of the determining factors in the final purchasing decision.

An example would be when I chose the G19, there are of course more powerful chamberings offered by Glock but IMHO I believe that Gaston's design is very nearly perfect for the 9mm Luger. I have no reservations about it's durability/reliability whatsoever in that chambering.

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For all intents and purposes I am just not a fan of converting calibers.

Whatever floats your boat.

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Old 05-07-2012, 23:02   #30
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To each his or her own. This thread was merely meant to bring some attention to what I believe to be an impressive round.

Have a good night all.

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Old 05-07-2012, 23:11   #31
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The .357 SIG in a sub-compact, does not kick hard to me lol!

I shot my buddy's G29 10mm with full power defensive JHPs, and it's a powderpuff just like all autoloader calibers, with possibly the exception of the .50 AE, but even that is light compared to the .500 and anything .41 mag and above.
I can see that you are impressed with yourself, and that is good because no one else is.
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Old 05-07-2012, 23:19   #32
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I can see that you are impressed with yourself, and that is good because no one else is.
I'm certain that your apparent bitterness win's people over famously!

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Old 05-07-2012, 23:22   #33
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I can see that you are impressed with yourself, and that is good because no one else is.
Enjoy your evening going around flaming people's threads, that's an accomplishment! Kudos!
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Old 05-07-2012, 23:28   #34
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Just ordered a .357 conversion barrel for my G27 and 300 rounds of ammo are on the way. I want to see what this hard kicking is all about.

I love conversion barrels. What other gun can be 4 in 1. 4 in 1 assumes you would get the .22 kit along with the 9mm, .40, and .357.
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Caliber Corner

"At least until the gun battered itself to death!" < I'm sure that you must be a super genius, just like Wile E Coyote!Caliber Corner
I suppose the next thing your going to say is that higher pressure ammo doesn't wear your gun out faster than a lower pressure load. Such as +P versus standard velocity ammo?

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wow!! I've never seen a thread where 6 of the last 7 posts were by the same person. I guess nobody else wants to rap with a tard. and your epic facepalm thing you post in all your threads is getting pretty tired.

flame on all alone. I'm out.
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Old 05-07-2012, 23:36   #37
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wow!! I've never seen a thread where 6 of the last 7 posts were by the same person. I guess nobody else wants to rap with a tard.

flame on all alone. I'm out.
You're a tard and no one does wish to "rap" with you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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I suppose the next thing your going to say is that higher pressure ammo doesn't wear your gun out faster than a lower pressure load. Such as +P versus standard velocity ammo?

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Higher pressure ammo does in fact induce wear faster on gun parts.

It's you're not your btw, here I'll assist you with your 1st grade grammatical lesson for the day. You're is a contraction of you and are and your refers to something in which you possess. Got it? Good! Get it in your head ding dong lol!

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Just ordered a .357 conversion barrel for my G27 and 300 rounds of ammo are on the way. I want to see what this hard kicking is all about.

I love conversion barrels. What other gun can be 4 in 1. 4 in 1 assumes you would get the .22 kit along with the 9mm, .40, and .357.

The only difference may be in muzzle flip with the .357 SIG being faster. I honestly do not find either of these two calibers to have any substantial recoil.

There was a woman at the range a few weeks ago shooting a .454 Cassull, she may have weighted all of 130lbs and was handling it like a pro!
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I've never had the chance to chrono the Double Tap .357 Sig. However, I've tested a bit of their ammo in other calibers. All but one came up short of the advertised velocity.

There is better for the money. I will say, if it actually did get those velocity numbers, then .357 Sig would actually equal the .357 Magnum.

At least until the gun battered itself to death!

Few 357mag loadcs today "equal 357mag" performance in even 6" guns. A 125gr JHO @ 1400fps+ is pretty much what you get in most 4" revolvers. I think most 4" 357sigs are right about there as well w/ most ammo brands, based on my own chrongraph results.
FWIW, I don't feel the 357sig recoils that much, but blast is pretty fierce. Higher vel 40s in the same platform recoil more to me but it is subjective.
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