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Old 05-10-2012, 15:32   #1
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Pelosi: Gay marriage more important than elections

I'm glad this aberration isn't off-limits too!!
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"The statement that the president made was something that was the right thing to do for the country; it filled my heart with joy," Pelosi told reporters today. "We come here to do a job for the American people, not to hold a job . . . It's more important than any political consequences."

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Old 05-10-2012, 15:37   #2
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Old 05-10-2012, 15:44   #3
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At least Pelosi and Obama have come out and made a concise and definite stance on a controversial issue. Kind of refreshing after watching Romney tap dance, backpedal, and U-turn his way through life.


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Obama Should Go After Romney's Flip-Flops, Not His Extremism

May 9, 2012 So many choices so little time. This is the dilemma that faces the Obama strategy team. The choice they must make is whether to go after Mitt as a right-wing extremist or as a serial flip-flopper.

Trying to decide how to attack Romney is like trying to decide whether to have cake or pie for dessert. Campaign Obama is inclined to go after Romney as a right-wing extremist. I can certainly understand the temptation to go that way but there's a better way to skin the cat.


Romney supported the passage of a ballot question in Mississippi that would have banned virtually all abortions. This measure was so extreme that voters in one of the most conservative states in the union rejected it.

In Ohio, the presumptive GOP nominee supported the law which banned collective bargaining for public employees. Ohio is a presidential battleground state with 18 electoral votes and Buckeye voters killed that turkey by a two-to-one margin.

Romney, his budget buddy Rep. Paul Ryan, and the rest of the Republican mean machine support a plan to cripple Medicare. Their attempt to kill Medicare will not go over well in Florida, a haven for seniors which has the most electoral votes, 29, of any swing state. The same goes for Pennsylvania which has an aging population and 20 electoral votes.


I realize that I've just made a compelling case for attacking Romney's extreme positions. But painting Romney as a right-wing extremist doesn't have as much of an upside for Democrats as portraying him as a serial flip-flopper. Romney will backpedal from his radical positions so fast that reporters and conservatives will get whiplash trying to keep up with the changes.

My guess is that the presidential race will be close and turnout will be the key to victory. If Democrats go after Romney as a conservative extremist, they run the risk of energizing voters from the Tea Party and the religious right. GOP conservatives are lukewarm at best about Romney, so Democrats should let this sleeping dog lie.
But attacks against the former Bay State governor as a flip-flopper promise an even greater reward.


The new Romney takes a hard line against gay rights. But when Mitt Romney ran against Ted Kennedy in 1994, the Bain capitalist ran as a liberal. That was before Romney was a moderate and then a conservative. In a televised debate, Romney pledged to be as strong on gay rights as Senator Kennedy which is a very hard thing to do. But Romney was willing to give it a try.

But that wasn't the end of Romney's liberal period or his support for Ted Kennedy's positions. The 2012 version of Mitt Romney says he opposes a requirement that everyone has to buy health insurance. But as governor, Romney supported a healthcare reform law which became the prototype of Obamacare, mandatory coverage and all.

Another example of Romney's flexibility, some say hypocrisy, is the federal loan that saved General Motors. Romney opposed the loan to General Motors which saved hundreds of thousands of jobs in the Midwest. Romney bailed on autoworkers but he backed the banksters and billionaires when he supported the Wall Street bailout in the fall of 2008.


The biggest advantage of portraying the former Massachusetts governor as a serial flip-flopper is that Romney will help Democrats make the sale. Romney already has whipped out his Etch A Sketch to erase many of the positions he took during the primary campaign and replace them with freshly drawn stands.

Voters vote for people, not policies. Americans can stomach a leader with strong beliefs but they won't vote for a guy who doesn't have the courage of his convictions. Ronald Reagan's positions were too extreme for many Americans but they liked the former president because he stood up for his beliefs. I lived through Ronald Reagan's presidency and believe me, Mitt Romney is no Ronald Reagan.

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Old 05-10-2012, 15:47   #4
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At least Pelosi and Obama have come out and made a concise and definite stance on a controversial issue. Kind of refreshing after watching Romney tap dance, backpedal, and U-turn his way through life.

With this horrible economy I really don't care where they stand.
The whole thing's a diversion and most rational thinking folks know it.
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Old 05-10-2012, 15:58   #6
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With this horrible economy I really don't care where they stand.
My point is, at least you know where they stand.

Romney has more different positions than the kama Sutra.

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Old 05-10-2012, 16:33   #7
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At least Pelosi and Obama have come out and made a concise and definite stance on a controversial issue. Kind of refreshing after watching Romney tap dance, backpedal, and U-turn his way through life.
You must be new around here. You should always give a source for your article, and never post the whole thing.
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Old 05-10-2012, 17:52   #8
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You must be new around here. You should always give a source for your article, and never post the whole thing.
If you don't have the original, how do you know I posted the whole thing?

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Old 05-10-2012, 18:43   #9
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At least Pelosi and Obama have come out and made a concise and definite stance on a controversial issue. Kind of refreshing after watching Romney tap dance, backpedal, and U-turn his way through life.
Well, there you go again...
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If you don't have the original, how do you know I posted the whole thing?
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Old 05-10-2012, 19:01   #11
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At least Pelosi and Obama have come out and made a concise and definite stance on a controversial issue. Kind of refreshing after watching Romney tap dance, backpedal, and U-turn his way through life..
They both flop more than a fish out of water. Again, you're completely out of your mind.
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Old 05-10-2012, 19:57   #12
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At least Pelosi and Obama have come out and made a concise and definite stance on a controversial issue. Kind of refreshing after watching Romney tap dance, backpedal, and U-turn his way through life...
Another Obama supporter speaks out.

Well, at least this one doesn't pretend to be one of those "real conservatives" while he bashes Romney.
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Old 05-10-2012, 20:14   #13
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At least Pelosi and Obama have come out and made a concise and definite stance on a controversial issue. Kind of refreshing after watching Romney tap dance, backpedal, and U-turn his way through life.

they have to do this, they cant afford to have people talking about the jobs numbers-economy-food-gas prices-obamacare-fast and furious etc etc etc
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Old 05-10-2012, 20:20   #14
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My point is, at least you know where they stand.

Romney has more different positions than the kama Sutra.
Was there honestly ever a doubt about Obama's support for gay marriage. Really!!
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Old 05-10-2012, 20:30   #15
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My point is, at least you know where they stand.
And so what? Will it change anything? No. Did the President or Pelosi introduce any legislation today in concert with their latest stance on the subject? No. So in the grand scheme of things this is nothing but a political/media ploy designed to divert attention of the sheeple from the economy and poor jobs numbers.

Between now and November we are going to see these kinds of social issues put out by the media and Obama every few weeks in an effort to keep people's attention diverted from the real problems facing this country. Women's contraception/Sandra Fluck was just the first volley, this was the third since the Trayvon Martin story (ETA: white racism agenda) imploded once the facts the MSM ignored came out. There will be more.
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Another Obama supporter speaks out.

Well, at least this one doesn't pretend to be one of those "real conservatives" while he bashes Romney.
Yes because Romney is a "real conservative".
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Another Obama supporter speaks out.

Well, at least this one doesn't pretend to be one of those "real conservatives" while he bashes Romney.
Real conservatives? Don't you want to rewrite the COTUS?


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My point is, at least you know where they stand.

Romney has more different positions than the kama Sutra.
Didn't Obama flip flop?

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