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Old 05-15-2012, 08:11   #21
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At least this won't be like the mad max and postman where people had limitless ammo and everyone fired full auto. But if their using muskets, where are the caps being produced. These are not flintlocks but cap and ball. Also where wo0uld the powder be produced?
+1 I kind of laughed when some people thought they would still have ammo for their AK and AR 15 years after society collapsed.

I think after a year close to all boxed ammo would be shot up, and after 3 or 4 years even the most dedicated reloader and ammo hoarder would be out of bullets, primers, powder and usable brass.

When cops and criminal drop 100 rounds in a shootout, and military units use up thousands of rounds in a single firefight, there is no way there will be any ammo left 15 years after a society collapse.

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Old 05-15-2012, 09:16   #22
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:18   #23
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I guess NBC thinks only muskets, crossbows and swords will be the only weapons left after 15years to use.....fools...

If/when it comes on NetFlix...I'll check it out...(no cable)
Most people have no idea how much ammo is in storage and how long it would last, including me. So, the average viewer is going to assume that most people have long ago run out of modern cased ammo. You can make lead balls and gun powder. I don't know how to make a case and I am assuming it is much more difficult.
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:52   #24
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Looks kind of like The Postman.
In so many ways, and probably just as bad.

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+1 I kind of laughed when some people thought they would still have ammo for their AK and AR 15 years after society collapsed.

I think after a year close to all boxed ammo would be shot up, and after 3 or 4 years even the most dedicated reloader and ammo hoarder would be out of bullets, primers, powder and usable brass.

When cops and criminal drop 100 rounds in a shootout, and military units use up thousands of rounds in a single firefight, there is no way there will be any ammo left 15 years after a society collapse.
I doubt most people would survive long enough to shoot up their ammunition stash.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:35   #25
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At least this won't be like the mad max and postman where people had limitless ammo and everyone fired full auto. But if their using muskets, where are the caps being produced. These are not flintlocks but cap and ball. Also where wo0uld the powder be produced?
what unlimited ammo in (mad max). Max had "at best" 5 shotgun rounds which some of those wouldnt fire. He had maybe 3 or 4 m1 carbine rounds that he removed from a tribal necklace.
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Old 05-15-2012, 13:14   #26
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Could be interesting. So after Marshall Law a new force will emerge? Maybe.

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Old 05-15-2012, 14:33   #27
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Its funny, but between Falling Skies, The Walking Dead, and other shows like this, I find myself watching regular network TV series more then I did in a long time.
I'd watch it for awhile.

Just from the video - I don't like:
Everyone is just too good looking
Teeth very white & they have them all!

I'm guessing this is part of the "Global Warming" agenda - a group of people thought the only way to stop global warming was to cut of the power ...
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I know, that is the first thing I said when I saw him. Its funny how he is typecasted as the bad guy. He seemed like such a mild mannered businessman in Breaking Bad until the whole box cutter throat slash / poisoning an entire cartel / trying to kill Walt incident.

Its good to see him working again.

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Looks cool! Ill watch it, until NBC does something stupid and cancels it, like they did to the show Life a few years ago!
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When I first heard about this, I thought is was going to be a "Dies the Fire" type thing where even gunpowder doesn't work. But if they have flintlocks or percussion weapons, then not having cartridge weapons doesn't make sense.

Why would they be reduced to percussion guns? Cartridge ammunition has been around for at long time. Why wouldn't they be able to make it the same way it was made back in the middle of the 19th century?

And I understand why modern gasoline engines wouldn't work, but what about steam engines such as those used in the Stanley Steamer? Has gasoline and kerosene lost its ability to burn in this future?

I'll be very surprised if this makes it through a full season.

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Old 05-16-2012, 04:43   #31
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I think these shows are funny. 15 years with no electricity, civilization has broken down, they are down to bows and muzzleloaders, and EVERYONE is perfectly clean, manicured, and have perfect haircuts.......yeah.......
Your 100% correct, but come on its TV. What else do you expect.
If there is a lot of drama and some romance in it, most people don't think about the reality of the story. America's drama queens won't care.
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:40   #32
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Your 100% correct, but come on its TV. What else do you expect.
If there is a lot of drama and some romance in it, most people don't think about the reality of the story. America's drama queens won't care.
+ remember when people bytched about that with Jericho. At some point having skinny, dirty people riding bicycles becomes lame when compared to having a good looking hero, drive up in his pickup truck to save a curvy female with flowing blonde hair.
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Your 100% correct, but come on its TV. What else do you expect.
If there is a lot of drama and some romance in it, most people don't think about the reality of the story. America's drama queens won't care.
Here is what I want to see in people:
- greasy hair
- shaved heads - no lice
- men with beards
- yellow teeth
- teeth missing from cavities and pebbles in food
- cripples - broken bones that were not set properly
- amputees - from infections
- dirty & ripped clothing
- pot marked children from small pox
- squinting people - no glasses
- shoeless people
- flies around people because trying to bathe in winter or cold rivers isn't something you want to do very often.








Now I know I can go to Alabama and see all that but we're talking TV here.
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:38   #34
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Hunting rounds maybe, but I could easily see people having .22, AK, and AR ammo 15 years down the line. I don't know how many rounds are here in Utah, but it's probably in the millions. If that much ammo is gone I can't see how there will be anyone left here alive.
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Here is what I want to see in people:
- greasy hair
- shaved heads - no lice
- men with beards
- yellow teeth
- teeth missing from cavities and pebbles in food
- cripples - broken bones that were not set properly
- amputees - from infections
- dirty & ripped clothing
- pot marked children from small pox
- squinting people - no glasses
- shoeless people
- flies around people because trying to bathe in winter or cold rivers isn't something you want to do very often...
Not me; give me good-looking people and scenery on TV. Living in Arkansas, we see more than enough toothless, gimped-up barefoot folks in real life. No point watching more of them on tv.
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Not me; give me good-looking people and scenery on TV. Living in Arkansas, we see more than enough toothless, gimped-up barefoot folks in real life. No point watching more of them on tv.
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If I want reality I'll watch the news. TV is my enjoyment time.
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Not me; give me good-looking people and scenery on TV. Living in Arkansas, we see more than enough toothless, gimped-up barefoot folks in real life. No point watching more of them on tv.
Well, if we are going that route. The women should look like Jessica Simpson.
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+1 I kind of laughed when some people thought they would still have ammo for their AK and AR 15 years after society collapsed.

I think after a year close to all boxed ammo would be shot up, and after 3 or 4 years even the most dedicated reloader and ammo hoarder would be out of bullets, primers, powder and usable brass.

When cops and criminal drop 100 rounds in a shootout, and military units use up thousands of rounds in a single firefight, there is no way there will be any ammo left 15 years after a society collapse.

You obviously have it figured out.
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Well, if we are going that route. The women should look like Jessica Simpson.
Simpson or Alba either one.

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Seems silly when they can't make ammo but can make arrows that will fly straight and strings for compound bows.
Suddenly there are a lot of good sword smiths.
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