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05-19-2012, 13:28
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Meanwhile, in Chicago . . .
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05-19-2012, 16:26
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Didn't Chicago have a record number of shootings last year or the year before? It seems their total ban on all firearms within the city limits is not working.
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05-19-2012, 18:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anubisgodofgods
Didn't Chicago have a record number of shootings last year or the year before? It seems their total ban on all firearms within the city limits is not working.
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You're not looking at this like the dems look at it. They'd say that without the ban in place, it'd be worse. Just like Barry and his stimulus spending. Both are BS, but it makes them feel good.
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05-19-2012, 18:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A6Gator
You're not looking at this like the dems look at it. They'd say that without the ban in place, it'd be worse. Just like Barry and his stimulus spending. Both are BS, but it makes them feel good.
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They have a point. Once you arm the good guys you can end up with an increase in the number of homicides... If you include justifiable homicides such as self defense.
but as long as the number of unjustified homicides goes down in the process, I'm still a little unclear as to why more BG's getting shot while committing felonies is considered a bad thing.
Nothing I have on me is worth getting shot over. But if you're willing to shoot me for it, I'm willing to shoot you over it if I suspect you won't just take it and leave me alone.
Randy
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05-19-2012, 20:23
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Location: Chicago, IL
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Honestly, I feel the same about the firearms restrictions here. However, you must realize that the great majority of these shootings are gang vs gang... Legalizing concealed carry for law abiding citizens would make a lot of people feel more secure, but it wouldn't necessarily drop the homicide rate greatly.
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05-19-2012, 20:59
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It's that "Content of Character" thing....again.
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05-20-2012, 06:54
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Justified Homicides aren't considered a homicide for UCR reporting.
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05-20-2012, 08:04
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These shootings were all on the south or west side, and I'll bet every shooter was a felon and not ONE gun was legally owned.
Most of these shootings are just 'business'. Either the business of drug dealing or gang banging. From 'No Country for Old Men':
- Wanna drive out there?
- No, that's all I had to look for......it sound like these boys died of natural causes.
- How's that, sheriff?
- Natural to the line of work they were in
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