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Old 05-19-2012, 13:29   #1
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What do you think would happen if they legalize drugs ?

I think the home boys would still kill each other for turf control
but it would lessen the load on the court and penial system at great savings state-wide .
How do you see things change ?

PS. Yea , I spelled "penial" wrong , too bad !
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Old 05-19-2012, 13:32   #2
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I think the home boys would still kill each other for turf control
I don't get it. Why would they still kill each other?

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Old 05-19-2012, 13:44   #3
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I don't get it. Why would they still kill each other?

because legalizing drugs don't mean homies won't still be dissin', yo.
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Old 05-19-2012, 13:44   #4
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I don't get it. Why would they still kill each other?
Been going on since man has learned to throw rocks

GREED !
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Old 05-19-2012, 13:51   #5
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Been going on since man has learned to throw rocks

GREED !
But, if there aren't any illegal drugs to sell what is there to get greedy about?
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Old 05-19-2012, 13:51   #6
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If it were a Federal "legalization" States and municipalities would still have "blue laws" restricting or keeping them illegal.

If entire States still kept them illegal, then the Federal Government would have to spend money on enforcing Federal laws against trafficking across State lines.

Drugs would have to be taxed elsewise the alcohol distillers, tobacco industry and Pharmeceutical industry would cry "foul" since their products are taxed. The taxing would then require a new government agency would have to be developed, or an existing branch (BATFE) would have to be expanded to enforce the laws and collect the taxes. Smuggling would likely continue if the taxes were considered too high, since the smuggling aparatus is in place. To not tax it would descriminate against other taxed substances.

Since everything else we can buy for consumption is tested for safety and purity (look at the debate over unpasturized milk as an example) the "recreational drug" industry would have to be formalized and subject to product testing. (can you imagine the cry from do-gooders if a batch of "bad stuff" caused major deaths?) . It would descriminate against all other product producers whos products are rigidly tested.

With the need for control due to the issues outlined (above) the existing pharmeceutical industry would be the logical "base" for the operation, this would create a number of problems with our current perscription regulations, they could sell heroin as a "recreational" substance, but Oxycontin would still be subject to perscription regulations. How far would this go in the line between "recreational" and "theraputic" drugs? would all pharmeceuticals including antibiotics and others then be free of the need for a perscription?

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Old 05-19-2012, 13:55   #8
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Do you really think the homies would give up their turf.
Legal or not , It's like dogs pissing on trees ,that would not change.
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Old 05-19-2012, 14:06   #10
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The worst drug in this country is alcohol. The ratio of trauma/violence/bodily harm that I see in the ER from alcohol compared to illegal drugs is probably on the order of 10:1. Legalizing drugs would stop the "war on drugs" and all of the associated waste of money and would stop LEO lives being placed at risk. It's one of the best things we could do (along w/ making DUI a felony w/ mandatory time on chain gang).
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Old 05-19-2012, 14:08   #11
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Ending Prohibition did not end Drunk drivers nor Stills. It would be ludicrous to think legalizing drugs will make everything nicey! Greed and Sin are still in play.
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Old 05-19-2012, 14:16   #12
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There would probably be more thefts. I have yet to see a junkie or tweaker that can hold a job. At least one that can hold it for a long time. Even if they quit before they kill themselves with their drug of choice they still end up with brain damage. Have you ever talked to a former druggie? Tweakers are nutty and junkies are pathologically lazy. Crackheads are impulsive as hell.

In the end I don't care if they do legalize it. It is not the panacea legalization folks think it will be. It will just shift resources from drugs to property crimes.
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Old 05-19-2012, 14:18   #13
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Ending Prohibition did not end Drunk drivers nor Stills. It would be ludicrous to think legalizing drugs will make everything nicey! Greed and Sin are still in play.
Ain't trying to make it nicey , just affordable on state budget.
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Old 05-19-2012, 14:45   #14
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Some drugs are legal yet are still a major problems. Like the one prescribed to you for your surgery, in the wrong hands they are abused, traded and sold. Another legal drug would be alcohol, abused for centuries and when abused bad for families and society. Tobacco, same thing.

It is the nature of humanity to seek things that alter feelings, even animals in the wild do.
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Old 05-19-2012, 15:20   #15
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drugs will NEVER be legalized. too many folks make their living both legally and not from them..police, DEA, lawyers,bail bondsmen, the list goes on.... not to mention the thousands of dollars from confiscation
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Old 05-19-2012, 17:55   #16
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drugs will NEVER be legalized. too many folks make their living both legally and not from them..police, DEA, lawyers,bail bondsmen, the list goes on.... not to mention the thousands of dollars from confiscation
+1000000000000000000

Same thing with the war on poverty - too many people make money off it.
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Old 05-19-2012, 19:32   #17
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I say legalize drugs in one state as a test case, and see how it plays out.
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Old 05-20-2012, 18:32   #18
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The drug kingpins would move on to a different market, just like the bootleggers did.
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Old 05-21-2012, 21:37   #19
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Sounds like a good idea until someone who has been up for three days kills your kid. Then you will be saying why doesn't anybody stop this, I'm gonna sue. Blah, Blah. Drugs are unnatural and devastating. If you think anything else, you haven't seen what they do.
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Old 05-21-2012, 21:56   #20
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It kind of makes one wonder, before 1914, all this stuff was legal. What was America before 1914? Was it full of coke heads when cocaine was legal and used in drinks and elixirs? Cough medicine often contained opium.

Maybe the problem is that people do not accept personal responsibility. Proper conduct mattered.
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