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Old 06-27-2012, 03:30   #226
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Somebody please call me when this minutia is over.....

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let me guess. colt owner?

lets get back to the meat and potatos. colt's are da' best!

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Old 06-27-2012, 04:35   #227
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Somebody please call me when this minutia is over.....
So, you're just here for the important stuff, huh?
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:30   #228
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Initial/present trigger pull measurements

......................initial......................present Data in lbs-0z

...........1......2....3.......avg...............1......2......3.....avg

Colt ....7-14,6-8,7-8 7-4.667 ..........7-4,7-12,6-12 7-4

Sport...6-2,6-12,6-4 6-6 ................. 6-3,6-2,5-11 6-0
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Old 06-27-2012, 17:43   #229
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......................initial......................present Data in lbs-0z

...........1......2....3.......avg...............1......2......3.....avg

Colt ....7-14,6-8,7-8 7-4.667 ..........7-4,7-12,6-12 7-4

Sport...6-2,6-12,6-4 6-6 ................. 6-3,6-2,5-11 6-0
Whoa, could you explain that for me?

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Old 06-27-2012, 18:03   #230
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Whoa, could you explain that for me?

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It is the measurements he got on trigger pull. He measured 3, then provided the avg. of the 3.

Colt initial out of box
1. 7 lbs 14 oz
2. 6 lbs 8 oz
3. 7 lbs 8 oz
Avg. 7lbs 4.667 oz

Colt present after initial accuracy test
1. 7 lbs 4 oz
2. 7 lbs 12 oz
3. 6 lbs 12 oz
Avg. 7lbs 4 oz

M&P 15 Sport initial out of box
1. 6 lbs 2 oz
2. 6 lbs 12 oz
3. 6 lbs 4 oz
Avg. 6 lbs 6 oz

M&P 15 Sport present after initial accuracy test
1. 6 lbs 3 oz
2. 6 lbs 2 oz
3. 5 lbs 11 oz
Avg. 6 lbs 0o z
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Old 06-27-2012, 18:17   #231
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Awesome, thanks cypher.

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Old 06-27-2012, 18:54   #232
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Awesome, thanks cypher.

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You're welcome. Looks like both triggers are improving with use. I didn't go back and calculate how many rounds he has through them. Not that many yet.
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Old 06-27-2012, 19:25   #233
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Instead of trying to count rounds as they are shot, we have assigned an ammo can to each rifle. Each rifle is only shot with ammo from its ammo can. Equal amounts of like ammo goes into both cans. We keep track of what gets put into the ammo can and rounds fired count = what was put into ammo can - what remains.

Most triggers get lighter with use. At Boy Scout camp we can only use rifles with trigger pulls over 3 pounds. We check pull daily and see pull weight go down steadily until we have to pull a rifle off of the line for a new trigger.
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Old 06-27-2012, 21:28   #234
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let me guess. colt owner?

lets get back to the meat and potatos. colt's are da' best!

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So, you're just here for the important stuff, huh?
No Colts in the stable. I'm just wondering how the S&W M&P Sport will fare. I'm thinking about buying one for my son (before the first week of November).

I have a Bushmaster that was purchased in 2003.
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Old 07-04-2012, 19:20   #236
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Finally got in some Hornady 75 grain Match BTHP and expect some Black Hills 77gr Match BTHP tomorrow. Plus, we will do a little celebratory shooting tonite, so the barrels will be broken in before we see how the heavier loads shoot.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:04   #237
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No Colts in the stable. I'm just wondering how the S&W M&P Sport will fare. I'm thinking about buying one for my son (before the first week of November).

I have a Bushmaster that was purchased in 2003.
Get your kid one , you won't be sorry! Its a great value for the dollar as good as my Colt.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:12   #238
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Colt 883 accuracy eval 7/6/2012 *am *temp 88 wind 260@3
Firing direction 262 *5 shot groups

Hornady 75 gr bthp match *1.624 *1.386 *1.718 avg 1.576

Black hills 77 gr bthp match *1.841 * 1.523 *1.582 avg 1.648

Fiochhi 50 gr v-max * *1.758 *2.286 2.452 *avg 2.165

Avg of averages - 1.796 +- .2
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:31   #239
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Sport 095 *accuracy eval 7/6/2012 *am *temp 88 wind 260@3
Firing direction 262 *5 shot groups

Hornady 75 gr bthp match *1.672 *1.249 .887 avg *1.269

Black hills 77 gr bthp match *3.827 * 3.471 *2.673 avg 3.324

Fiochhi 50 gr v-max * *.619 *1.258 *1.161 avg 1.012

Avg of averages - 1.868 +-.2
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:17   #240
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Interesting. The SW didn't like the Black Hills ammo at all.
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Old 07-08-2012, 20:21   #241
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Sorry, should clarify. Was suggesting to shoot guns stock, and order replacements from BCM as stock parts fail. I don't consider BCM to be more reliable than usual, but instead that BCM makes proper milspec parts, and other companies can be sub-par. I wasn't suggesting an outright swap to BCM parts out the gate, just as other bits fail

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Who within BCM actually stated that THEY - BCM - MAKE their OWN AR PARTS?

They have other people make parts for THEM, with their trades on them. They are a parts house/assembler - like PSA - nothing more.
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Who within BCM actually stated that THEY - BCM - MAKE their OWN AR PARTS?

They have other people make parts for THEM, with their trades on them. They are a parts house/assembler - like PSA - nothing more.
Fine, replace "makes" with "sells" in my original post. The point still stands.
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I'm not surprised that the Colt liked the heavier bullets and the smith didn't. I'm guessing the colt is a 1/7 and the Smith is a 1/9?
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I'm not surprised that the Colt liked the heavier bullets and the smith didn't. I'm guessing the colt is a 1/7 and the Smith is a 1/9?
The Smith is a 1/8.
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The Smith is a 1/8.
Interesting. I've got a 6920, but have no experience with the Smith.
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Wow, 98% of the posts have nothing to do with the test.

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So..........Smith&Wesson or Colt?
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:29   #248
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So..........Smith&Wesson or Colt?
Depends on how much cash you have and how quick you want your rifle.
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Wow, 98% of the posts have nothing to do with the test.

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And your post really helps push the percentage.
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Old 07-10-2012, 19:01   #250
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Wow, 98% of the posts have nothing to do with the test.

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It is kind of difficult to read the data. You should put it in a spreadsheet and post the table as an image.

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