Does Sig have some of the WORST blueing?

DaBurna · 05-25-2012, 15:32

I've seen them used and new in the case and the finish suuuuuure does wear off quick! Not that it affects reliability, but if in gonna plunk down >$800 I'd be PISSED if it was worn off in a couple of months.... HK's seem to have that same issue, especially on the barrel hoods. They are completely a different color oftentimes...

diamondd2 · 05-25-2012, 15:40

Both are way overrated. Especially for the price.

Dan · 05-25-2012, 15:58

I work p/t in a shop as the gun tech, I have sent a few Sigs back lately for warranty work for various reasons. The last one was a Sig 1911 c3, 3 months old and the stainless slide is pitting.

Customer sure wasn't happy with them.

fnfalman · 05-26-2012, 01:41

Which new SIG has bluing? Aren't they all blackened stainless steel nowadays?

Restless28 · 05-26-2012, 06:42

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Both are way overrated. Especially for the price.

Care to explain that position?

oldnoob · 05-26-2012, 06:55

Their nitron finish wan't the nicest finish I have seem. But any finish short of poly coat the gun will not hold up for serious user or holstering wear.

Bruce M · 05-26-2012, 08:20

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Both are way overrated. Especially for the price.

Care to share your experience with both?

Boot Stomper · 05-26-2012, 10:37

I have an older P229 I carry for work and it has a lot of holster wear. The blue or black (the slide is slainless steel) finish of the gun is very poor. Everything else about the gun has been excellent. The gun is about 20 years old and it has been flawless in the ten years I have carried and shot it.

I would post pictures, but the gun is at work. Sorry.

TxGlock9 · 05-26-2012, 10:38

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Originally Posted by bruce m

care to share your experience with both?

+3...

diamondd2 · 05-26-2012, 10:45

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Originally Posted by Restless28

Care to explain that position?

Neither can do anything better than my $500 Glock.

Restless28 · 05-26-2012, 10:49

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Neither can do anything better than my $500 Glock.

Weak.

oldnoob · 05-26-2012, 10:52

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Neither can do anything better than my $500 Glock.

Get a Hi point. Save yourself $400 more.

arclight610 · 05-26-2012, 10:55

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Neither can do anything better than my $500 Glock.

Except run rings around it in accuracy among many other things. I own both brands, and I really like both. However, there are some things the Sig can do better.

diamondd2 · 05-26-2012, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Restless28

Weak.

But true.

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diamondd2 · 05-26-2012, 11:20

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Originally Posted by oldnoob

Get a Hi point. Save yourself $400 more.

Hi point is not considered a premium gun.

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diamondd2 · 05-26-2012, 11:23

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Originally Posted by arclight610

Except run rings around it in accuracy among many other things. I own both brands, and I really like both. However, there are some things the Sig can do better.

Mechanically the Sig is no more accurate than a Glock. But if that's what you need to say to justify the 50%-75% premium that's fine. You just ain't fooling me.

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Restless28 · 05-26-2012, 11:25

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

But true.

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Back it up. As has been stated, show some evidence that its true.

diamondd2 · 05-26-2012, 11:38

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Originally Posted by Restless28

Back it up. As has been stated, show some evidence that its true.

Let's see.

Glock:

Lighter
More reliable
More capacity
Longer barrel per class
Longer sight radius per class
Simpler (1 tool to take apart)
Better finish
More compact
More aftermarket accessories
As or more accurate
More sold than HK and Sigs combined
$250-$600 less for the Glock
Etc.

I owned both Sigs and HK's. I thought there was some kind of advantage since I paid huge premiums to my Glocks. It took me a while but I realized the Glock is a superior engineered pistol. I since have sold off the Sigs and HK's. I did however keep 1 Beretta.

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**Gregg702** · 05-26-2012, 11:40

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Hi point is not considered a premium gun.

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A Glock is also not considered a premium gun. They are both manufactured as inexpensively as possible, Glock just charges a more premium price.

diamondd2 · 05-26-2012, 11:44

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Originally Posted by AudiGregg

A Glock is also not considered a premium gun. They are both manufactured as inexpensively as possible, Glock just charges a more premium price.

Your kidding, right?

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**Gregg702** · 05-26-2012, 11:47

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Your kidding, right?

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Nope. The reason many LEA's use the Glock is they are the least expensive guns that meet their minimum requirements. Calling them a premium gun is like calling a Ford a premium car.

TalkToTheGlock · 05-26-2012, 11:47

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Let's see.

Glock:

Lighter
More reliable
More capacity
Longer barrel per class
Simpler (1 tool to take apart)
Better finish
More compact
More aftermarket accessories
As or more accurate
More sold than HK and Sigs combined
$250-$600 less for the Glock
Etc.

I owned both Sigs and HK's. I thought there was some kind of advantage since I paid huge premiums to my Glocks. It took me a while but I realized the Glock is a superior engineered pistol. I since have sold off the Sigs and HK's. I did however keep 1 Beretta.

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Sig has 18 round flush fitting mags plus 20 round mags and mag extenders.

What grip options does Glock offer?

How ergonomic is Glock compared to Sig?

More compact, I don't care for compact pistols.

Does Glock offer aftermarket factory threaded barrels?

What accessories are more available for Glock over Sig?

Field stripping a Sig doesn't require the pull of a trigger and is much easier to breakdown then Glock with just the release lever instead of those horrendous tabs.

Reliability? About the same.

Accuracy is in the shooter.

Glocks are made of polymer which will degrade in a hundred years. Sigs will still be around in a hundred years.

Hi-Points sell more than Glock. Does that make them "better".

Compare apples and apples next time.

Whatever floats your boat and gets your Jimmy's rustled is best for you.

Good day.

TxGlock9 · 05-26-2012, 11:51

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Originally Posted by diamondd2

Let's see.

Glock:

Lighter
More reliable
More capacity
Longer barrel per class
Longer sight radius per class
Simpler (1 tool to take apart)
Better finish
More compact
More aftermarket accessories
As or more accurate
More sold than HK and Sigs combined
$250-$600 less for the Glock
Etc.

I owned both Sigs and HK's. I thought there was some kind of advantage since I paid huge premiums to my Glocks. It took me a while but I realized the Glock is a superior engineered pistol. I since have sold off the Sigs and HK's. I did however keep 1 Beretta.

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All those things that you've listed are arbitrary. Nothing definitive about it.

Restless28 · 05-26-2012, 11:52

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Originally Posted by AudiGregg

Nope. The reason many LEA's use the Glock is they are the least expensive guns that meet their minimum requirements. Calling them a premium gun is like calling a Ford a premium car.

Beat me to it.

diamondd2 · 05-26-2012, 11:53

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Originally Posted by AudiGregg

Nope. The reason many LEA's use the Glock is they are the least expensive guns that meet their minimum requirements. Calling them a premium gun is like calling a Ford a premium car.

I never heard of a Officer losing his life because a Glock failed.

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