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Old 06-28-2012, 08:09   #1
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Mandate unconstitutional

mandate UNCONSTITUTIONAL

now some are saying that the mandate will survive as a tax

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Old 06-28-2012, 08:11   #2
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Damn, you quick. Did you type in advance and just have your finger hovering over "submit"?
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:13   #3
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Confusion in the press. This is Coooool.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:13   #4
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And... Roberts is shown for the mush he is.

Thanks Dubyah!
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:14   #5
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It's not allowed under the commerce clause, but it is under the taxing power. Mandate survives, as does the rest of ACA.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:15   #6
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Scotusblog is showing the ACA is upheld for the most part
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:16   #7
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Unconstitutional under commerce clause, unconstitutional under necessary and proper, now ABC is moving their lips as they read whether or not it's a tax.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:18   #8
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glenn beck reporting it ALL remaining
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:18   #9
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:18   #10
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Looks like we have an issue for November.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:19   #11
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seriously..wtf. Sounds like another .gov train wreck.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:19   #12
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glenn beck reporting it ALL remaining
Beck is wrong.
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Looks like we have an issue for November.
What might that be? Mittens was for the individual mandate before Obama was.
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It is a truly sad day for the America.

I don't know what else to say.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:21   #15
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We live in interesting but sad times.....America is no more.

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Upholding the Mandate as a tax makes Obama and the rest of the Democrats liars (as they argued throughout the development of the bill that it wasn't a tax). Republicans are undoubtedly pulling video files of every Democrat of significance declaring that the individual mandate did not constitute a tax.

I guess this gives Romney another platform on which to stake his candidacy (repeal of Obamacare) -- as well as the rest of the GOP.

But yeah -- I'm quite disappointed in Roberts...


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We live in interesting but sad times.....America is no more.

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Only to the Sunshine Patriot. What it really is, is an opportunity to buckle down, work and achieve.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:26   #18
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Obama just won a 2nd term.
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And... Roberts is shown for the mush he is.

Thanks Dubyah!
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It is a truly sad day for the America.

I don't know what else to say.
Ditto.
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We live in interesting but sad times.....America is no more.

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The leftist are coming out of the woodwork....
sad time indeed....but America is not finished yet...
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:28   #22
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bye, bye America
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Ya see! That's why you have to have a Republican in the White House so they can appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court. Oh, wait! Wasn't Roberts Bush's appointee? Do you miss me now?
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Hang in there....stop sulking...
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Hang in there....stop sulking...

Yeah -- imagine if Washington packed up his bags and went home from Valley Forge...


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