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06-28-2012, 17:01
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Do I have the right to be a little upset(semi-custom build wait time)?
Ok, I think I have the right but I wanted to ask here since many of you have ordered semi-custom 1911's before. I wont say any names but I ordered a 1911 and was quoted a wait time and I'm nearing double the wait time quoted. Is this the norm? I'm not blaming the dealer since they were quoted the same time frame from the manufacturer. Just a little annoying. I've asked for updates from the dealer several times and have been told I'll ask and let you know but I've never recieved an answer. I'm also a little annoyed at that but again I don't know if that's the norm when it comes to ordering a semi-custom. Is this a "send me your $ for a deposit, wait, don't ask when it's going to be ready, wait some more, reach the quoted build time, no call, wait, when I call you and tell you it's ready it's ready," type deal?
I've thought about calling and asking for my deposit back but I want the gun and I don't want to get into a argument about being quoted a bogus build time and then be told I'm not getting my money back. Plus I WANT THE DANG GUN!
I know these builders have long wait times but almost double the time quoted is just unacceptable. If you're quoting times and don't meet them after several guns, start quouting longer times!
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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06-28-2012, 17:06
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You've got me curious on who the manufacturer is.
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06-28-2012, 17:13
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I don't want to bash the manufacturer as I believe they build great firearms. Or at least that's what I'm told. I haven't actually handled one but decided to go with this builder over others based on reviews I've read. I'm just bothered by the extra wait.
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06-28-2012, 17:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B_RAD
I don't want to bash the manufacturer as I believe they build great firearms. Or at least that's what I'm told. I haven't actually handled one but decided to go with this builder over others based on reviews I've read. I'm just bothered by the extra wait.
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I understand. Just wondered who it was. Maybe someone else is waiting too and can compare times, or past experience.
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06-28-2012, 17:26
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I'd be a little upset.
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06-28-2012, 18:05
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Sounds like more of a dealer issue than the builder.
Some dealers move many more pistols than others. Those that
move more seem to have priority with orders.
Kinda hard to give advice or opinions without knowing the builder.
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06-28-2012, 18:20
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Depends..if you're promissed a month and it's now two, chill
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06-28-2012, 18:32
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Depends..if you're promissed a month and it's now two, chill
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Darn good point,......waiting is always the hard part!
I'm eight months into a ten month estimate for a build from Chuck Rogers.
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06-28-2012, 18:46
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First off, the dealer is only telling you what is told to him. Also builders have issues that arise, most often that are unknown to them for several reasons. You'll be glad when you get your gun. Trust me. Good things come to those who wait.
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06-28-2012, 18:50
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I've been down this road several times, SA quoted me 9 months on a build and took 18 months, another was 8-12 weeks and took 7 months. Guncrafter quoted me 4 months and it's closing in on 8 months with nothing.
You have every right to be pissed...these companies shouldn't give quotes if they can't even come close to meeting them.
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06-28-2012, 19:16
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06-28-2012, 19:57
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06-28-2012, 20:08
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I ordered a STI Frame and slide to build my own 10mm back on march 6th was quoted 3-5 weeks when I placed the order, and I just got it last week, basically 16 weeks for just a frame and slide.
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06-28-2012, 20:16
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Waiting for 1911s does suck, especially if its much longer than anticipated.
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06-28-2012, 20:22
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Well imagine if you were waiting for a class 3 item too...
Just have patients. All will be good in the end
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06-28-2012, 20:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
First off, the dealer is only telling you what is told to him. Also builders have issues that arise, most often that are unknown to them for several reasons. You'll be glad when you get your gun. Trust me. Good things come to those who wait. 
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I know the dealer is only quoting what they were told. I also know that things come up that I may not be aware of. That's why I'm just a little annoyed vs mad. A builder knows if they're meeting the times they quote. If they are not meeting those times they should quote longer times. It's going to be awesome, I know. I was just wondering if this is the norm.
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06-28-2012, 20:30
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Originally Posted by R0CKETMAN
Depends..if you're promissed a month and it's now two, chill
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I agree but if I was told I had 90 days to pay for something and then at day 180 I wanted to pay for it I would probably be told that it was sold at day 97.....
Believe me, I don't want them to rush and sacrafice quality. It's going to be awesome! Just want it so it can sit in my safe...... Jeez.....
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06-28-2012, 20:56
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no sense on waiting for a semi-custom when there are lots of stocking dealers out there and can have the pistol the next day. they are usually cheaper than ordering direct from the manufacturer too. unless you ordered something unique.
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06-28-2012, 21:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
First off, the dealer is only telling you what is told to him. Also builders have issues that arise, most often that are unknown to them for several reasons. You'll be glad when you get your gun. Trust me. Good things come to those who wait. 
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This has been my experience also. You can't blame the dealer because they are at the manufacturer's mercy. Hopefully, your new item arrives soon. Good luck.
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06-28-2012, 21:04
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Originally Posted by dakrat
no sense on waiting for a semi-custom when there are lots of stocking dealers out there and can have the pistol the next day. they are usually cheaper than ordering direct from the manufacturer too. unless you ordered something unique.
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We're not talking about a Kimber here. A semi-custom is just that. A model, that is built to your specs/choices of options. I've NEVER seen a semi-custom type of gun (Nighthawk, Wilson, etc. ) at a LGS that couldn't have been ordered with YOUR options AND at a CHEAPER price.
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06-28-2012, 21:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
We're not talking about a Kimber here. A semi-custom is just that. A model, that is built to your specs/choices of options. I've NEVER seen a semi-custom type of gun (Nighthawk, Wilson, etc. ) at a LGS that couldn't have been ordered with YOUR options AND at a CHEAPER price.
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Not only did nobody have the gun I was looking for it. I'll get it with the options I wanted. I'm also pretty sure I got a better price from this dealer. It's going to be amazing once I do get it!
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06-28-2012, 21:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B_RAD
Not only did nobody have the gun I was looking for it. I'll get it with the options I wanted. I'm also pretty sure I got a better price from this dealer. It's going to be amazing once I do get it!
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I 100% guarantee it will be.
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06-28-2012, 21:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
We're not talking about a Kimber here.
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where did this come from?
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A semi-custom is just that. A model, that is built to your specs/choices of options
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because a semi-custom 1911 from one manufacturer have tons of options. other than ambi/non-ambi, finish, cocking serrations and night sights what else? most manufacturers are limited to use only their parts unless you go full custom build.
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I've NEVER seen a semi-custom type of gun (Nighthawk, Wilson, etc. ) at a LGS that couldn't have been ordered with YOUR options AND at a CHEAPER price.
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Crazy John stocks Browns and Baers in different configurations. can have your pistol shipped next day air. and cheaper than ordering direct from the manufacturers. both of my Baers are not standard options and have shot them at the range in less than 24 hour from ordering.
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06-28-2012, 21:41
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Originally Posted by dakrat
where did this come from?
because a semi-custom 1911 from one manufacturer have tons of options. other than ambi/non-ambi, finish, cocking serrations and night sights what else? most manufacturers are limited to use only their parts unless you go full custom build.
Crazy John stocks Browns and Baers in different configurations. can have your pistol shipped next day air. and cheaper than ordering direct from the manufacturers. both of my Baers are not standard options and have shot them at the range in less than 24 hour from ordering.
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Crazy John does not stock the gun I wanted. I called around and looked everywhere I could. Nobody had them in stock and their prices for the last ones they had were more than the dealer I ended up going with.
I do want a Baer also. Maybe next year.
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06-28-2012, 21:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B_RAD
Crazy John does not stock the gun I wanted. I called around and looked everywhere I could. Nobody had them in stock and their prices for the last ones they had were more than the dealer I ended up going with.
I do want a Baer also. Maybe next year.
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thats unfortunate. I hope you get your long waited order soon!
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