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07-07-2012, 22:09
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Many of the gunshops here have them. They are all lightly used. They were traded in for better 1911's.
Springfield, Baer, S&W, Kimber, Sig, Nighthawk, Wilson, etc...
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07-07-2012, 22:15
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Although I have 1911s by Wilson Combat, Ed Brown, Les Baer, Sig Sauer and Remington, two of my three competition guns are Colts. Colts work for me.
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07-07-2012, 22:48
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Originally Posted by *ASH*
Colt has become mediocre at best , they are colt from the past , and they have been living on old reputations for years . plenty of better guns out there .
but you got alot of folks drinking the colt kool aid
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This was true up until about five years ago. With their new machinary, Colts are probably one of the finest production 1911s currently made.
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07-07-2012, 23:05
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Did you try Collectors on Fondren? Or Pruits Guns and Ammo on Huffmiester? I WOULD NOT buy a Colt sight unseen, I have had 3 only kept 1, Kimber and Springfield make very nice 1911s for a decent price
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07-08-2012, 02:26
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Originally Posted by Glockdude1
Many of the gunshops here have them. They are all lightly used. They were traded in for better 1911's.
Springfield, S&W, Kimber, Sig, etc...

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Better than Colt?  
Please, let me guess. You have some beach front properties in Arizona that you would like to sell me for cheap too, right?
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07-08-2012, 02:28
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Originally Posted by *ASH*
Colt has become mediocre at best , they are colt from the past , and they have been living on old reputations for years . plenty of better guns out there .
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Of course there are better guns out there. They usually cost a lot more too. Do you expect a $1000 Colt to compete with a $3000 Ed Brown?
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but you got alot of folks drinking the colt kool aid
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Colt had been around for how long now? Their records speak for themselves.
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07-08-2012, 02:33
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Originally Posted by fnfalman
Of course there are better guns out there. They usually cost a lot more too. Do you expect a $1000 Colt to compete with a $3000 Ed Brown?
Colt had been around for how long now? Their records speak for themselves.
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thats the problem .living off their old record is nothing like the new ones .
as stated by me and alot of folks , Colt name does not hold the same presence it did long ago .
and there are guns that cost same as colts and out perform them
looks like some of us rawled up colt fanboys roflmao . kool aid
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07-08-2012, 02:51
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and there are guns that cost same as colts and out perform them
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Like?
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looks like some of us rawled up colt fanboys roflmao . kool aid
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I'm not riled up by your degradation of Colt. I'm offended by your ignorance.
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07-08-2012, 02:54
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Originally Posted by *ASH*
as stated by me and alot of folks , Colt name does not hold the same presence it did long ago .
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Yet they sell every M1911 that they make. Gun shops can't stock'em.
Of course the same goes for their Mattel Toy too. Noveske this, BCM that, yet for some reasons Colt Mattel Toys are still sought after and sold out.
For a marque that doesn't hold the same presence it did a long time ago, the demand for their products seem quite high. How do you explain that?
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07-08-2012, 03:27
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http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422474
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...-the-best-1911
read some of these , some pro colt some not .
tons more out there
hell i own a old colt delta 10mm , but i would not buy the newer version as its a piece of junk .
to answer your question , Colt sells alot of their guns based on
history , closed minded colt fans , etc etc . it can be debated forever like 9mm vs 45 .
but i like thousands of other folks do not think colt makes the best 1911 at any price range . YMMV
some folks love colt , i dont whopppeedooo .
then main seller for Colt is history . but thats true with cars, tools, any damn thing thats been around 100 years . the fact is the gap has closed and in some instances surpassed Colt.
but the biggest reason for colt being so successful
history
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07-08-2012, 04:45
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Blah, blah, blah.
Give me some of your own real world experience with something that costs the same price range as a Colt yet better.
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hell i own a old colt delta 10mm , but i would not buy the newer version as its a piece of junk .
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You own arguably one of the worst Colts if not THE worst Colts in history and you have the temerity to claim that the current Delta Elite is a piece of junk? That's a laugh. Anybody that knows anything about firearms and Colt in particular would know that the current Colts kick the living hell out of Colts made between 1980 and 2005.
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some folks love colt , i dont whopppeedooo .
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Neither do I. But I don't speak from ignorance.
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then main seller for Colt is history . but thats true with cars, tools, any damn thing thats been around 100 years . the fact is the gap has closed and in some instances surpassed Colt.
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Yes, indeed. They also cost thousands of dollars more. You pay for what you get.
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Really? Colt was so successful that they had to file for bankruptcy? That they had to sell the Prancing Pony atop of their building?
Please regale us with more tales of your intimate knowledge about Colt and Colt firearms.
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07-08-2012, 10:05
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Originally Posted by fnfalman
Blah, blah, blah.
Give me some of your own real world experience (snip)
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I paid a little more for my TRP, and a little less for my loaded than I did for my Colt Combat Elite and both Springfields are better guns IMO.
The TRP is a lot more accurate, tighter fit, smoother finish, and a much better gun all around. Even my made in Brazil Loaded has better fit, finish, and trigger than the Colt.
The Colt has a pretty loose slide to frame fit, a horrid trigger, and the bluing on the slide looks like it was done in sharpie. The grips sure are pretty though. I'll have to fall into the "Colt sells for nostalgia" group too.
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07-08-2012, 10:44
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Originally Posted by fnfalman
Maybe that's how they got their quality control up from the last thirty years too. Stop pumping out junks by the thousands, but focus on making good ones.
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They were using jigs from WWII to make their guns. One of my instructors showed pics from the factory. He even showed their new CNC jig for slides. They were in the process of going CNC for everything as of 2010.
They probably were trying to do too much with old ways of doing things.
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07-08-2012, 11:14
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The dealers around here don't stock many new Colts either, though most have some used examples.
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07-08-2012, 11:46
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I've shot a few Colts, but never one that shoots as nice as any of the Kimbers I've shot. I'm sure there are exceptional Colts out there, but I haven't run into them.
Also, none of the Colt revolvers I've shot felt as nice or were as accurate for me as my S&Ws. They are pretty, though.
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07-08-2012, 12:12
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Originally Posted by Travclem
I paid a little more for my TRP, and a little less for my loaded than I did for my Colt Combat Elite and both Springfields are better guns IMO.
The TRP is a lot more accurate, tighter fit, smoother finish, and a much better gun all around. Even my made in Brazil Loaded has better fit, finish, and trigger than the Colt.
The Colt has a pretty loose slide to frame fit, a horrid trigger, and the bluing on the slide looks like it was done in sharpie. The grips sure are pretty though. I'll have to fall into the "Colt sells for nostalgia" group too.
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thousands of folks feel the same way , im on that list as well
i inherited the one colt i got . never gets shot much , now my kimber, sti and springfields get used alot .
i have 2 grown daughters who shoot some as well , i was gonna hand it down to them but they dont want it , so down the road i will sell it , as of now its in safe .
FNLman , i have no more responses for you ,just keep drinking the kool aid and scoping out chicks .
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07-08-2012, 13:42
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Originally Posted by fnfalman
Blah, blah, blah.
Give me some of your own real world experience with something that costs the same price range as a Colt yet better.
You own arguably one of the worst Colts if not THE worst Colts in history and you have the temerity to claim that the current Delta Elite is a piece of junk? That's a laugh. Anybody that knows anything about firearms and Colt in particular would know that the current Colts kick the living hell out of Colts made between 1980 and 2005.
Neither do I. But I don't speak from ignorance.
Yes, indeed. They also cost thousands of dollars more. You pay for what you get.
Really? Colt was so successful that they had to file for bankruptcy? That they had to sell the Prancing Pony atop of their building?
Please regale us with more tales of your intimate knowledge about Colt and Colt firearms.
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FN man is right.
Those that REALLY know , know that Colt is using modern CNC machinery now and there current pistols are much better than just a few years ago.
Some of the opinions expressed in this thread are based on OLD information or experiences....
BTW, Colt has ALWAYS fitted the slide to frame a little sloppy compared to other makers to ensure reliability!
I would trust a new out of the box Colt over almost ANY other 1911!
I will never (again) own a series II Kimber!!!!!
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07-08-2012, 13:57
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I will never (again) own a series II Kimber!!!!!
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Tell me your experience with your SII Kimber. I have plain-jane Custom II (with an external extractor, no less) that I have over 10,000 trouble free rounds through. No rattle and very accurate.
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07-08-2012, 14:07
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Tell me your experience with your SII Kimber. I have plain-jane Custom II (with an external extractor, no less) that I have over 10,000 trouble free rounds through. No rattle and very accurate.
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Mine was also an external extractor and had numerous FTE.
Never had any of those with my Colts.
The Swartz type FPS has been known to be more problematic than the series 80 system (which every other maker WITH a FPS uses).
Talk about cheap finishes. The black oxide finish seems to be one of the weakest of any finish on any handgun I've had.
Then Kimber while asking a lot of $$$ for their 1911s, stuffs them with more MIM parts than anyone else in their price range!
BTW, slide to bbl fitting is much more important for better accuracy.
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07-08-2012, 14:08
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FWIW, I like my recently purchsed Colt Rail Gun, and would recommend it to others.
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07-08-2012, 14:42
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I'm in houston tx there are only a couple I have not looked at that I know of but I will keep looking I assure you.
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Have you been to collectors firearms? They have tons of pistols both new and used. I wouldn't buy from them but you could at least see and feel what you like and then order.
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07-08-2012, 21:34
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Originally Posted by 45caldan
FN man is right.
Those that REALLY know , know that Colt is using modern CNC machinery now and there current pistols are much better than just a few years ago.
Some of the opinions expressed in this thread are based on OLD information or experiences....
BTW, Colt has ALWAYS fitted the slide to frame a little sloppy compared to other makers to ensure reliability!
I would trust a new out of the box Colt over almost ANY other 1911!
I will never (again) own a series II Kimber!!!!!
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They may be using new tools but so is taurus. I have a 2011 combat elite and it is inferior to both of my Springfields.
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07-08-2012, 22:19
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They may be using new tools but so is taurus. I have a 2011 combat elite and it is inferior to both of my Springfields.
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Pffff. Comparing a Colt to a Taurus. Of course your Taurus is inferior to your Springfields especially if you a NM serial number.
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07-08-2012, 23:12
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Pffff. Comparing a Colt to a Taurus. Of course your Taurus is inferior to your Springfields especially if you a NM serial number.
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I do not own a taurus, the Combat Elite is a Colt.
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07-08-2012, 23:40
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Colt is currently making the best Series 70 1911s they've ever built. You can get one in blue for 900 bucks or in stainless for 1K bucks.
Most 1911s are custom shop built and, therefore, in on-going short supply.
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