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Old 07-06-2012, 19:24   #1
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Classic 1911 suggestions???

Hey folks. I've been itching to rejoin the 1911 family and could use some feedback. I'm looking to pickup a classic government model with a more Mil-spec look. I've thought about picking up a cheaper GI model like a RIA or Auto Ordinance and replacing some of the sub-par parts with quality stuff, but would it be worthwhile to just spend more up front and pick up something like a Springfield Mil-Spec or Colt 1991? Anyone have any suggestions on a good quality classic 1911. I'd like the price to stay as low as possible, but I know quality doesn't come cheap. I want the clean classic look, but it has to be reliable. I'm leaning towards carbon steel (blued, parkerized, etc.), but I do like Stainless models too. Any thoughts?
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Old 07-06-2012, 19:59   #2
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Hey folks. I've been itching to rejoin the 1911 family and could use some feedback. I'm looking to pickup a classic government model with a more Mil-spec look. I've thought about picking up a cheaper GI model like a RIA or Auto Ordinance and replacing some of the sub-par parts with quality stuff, but would it be worthwhile to just spend more up front and pick up something like a Springfield Mil-Spec or Colt 1991? Anyone have any suggestions on a good quality classic 1911. I'd like the price to stay as low as possible, but I know quality doesn't come cheap. I want the clean classic look, but it has to be reliable. I'm leaning towards carbon steel (blued, parkerized, etc.), but I do like Stainless models too. Any thoughts?

Id go with either springer or remington. I have a remington and they are fantastic. Very well built, very tight, very accurate. Plus they have the cool factor of being the first remington 1911s since world war 1.
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Old 07-06-2012, 20:12   #3
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Just get a nice Springfield GI and be done with it.
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Old 07-06-2012, 20:12   #4
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Id go with either springer or remington. I have a remington and they are fantastic. Very well built, very tight, very accurate. Plus they have the cool factor of being the first remington 1911s since world war 1.
The Remingtons are nice, but I hate the fact that they include a firing pin safety.
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Old 07-06-2012, 20:17   #5
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The Remingtons are nice, but I hate the fact that they include a firing pin safety.
very true. The 80s style arent very popular.
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Old 07-06-2012, 20:20   #6
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very true. The 80s style arent very popular.
No FPS is, actually.
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Old 07-06-2012, 21:47   #7
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Does the series 80 setup really make that much of a difference? I don't think I've ever fired a 1911 with that setup. Shot a few older (pre 80's) Colts and the Kimber 9mm I used to own had the Schwartz safety that didn't feel any different. I'm not looking for a 2lb competition trigger. As long as the break is crisp, I don't mind a little heavier trigger. How does the series 80 trigger differ? Takeup? Break? Reset? Just wondering...
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Old 07-06-2012, 21:53   #8
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The Remingtons are nice, but I hate the fact that they include a firing pin safety.



I hate the fact that the GI uses a two piece barrel.
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Old 07-06-2012, 21:59   #9
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I've thought about picking up a cheaper GI model like a RIA or Auto Ordinance and replacing some of the sub-par parts with quality stuff, / Any thoughts?
What parts are sub-par on a RIA? None of them have a firing pin block/safety.
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Old 07-06-2012, 22:01   #10
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Blued Colt series '70. Either new or used, thats what I'd get. Even if it means saving up for an extra few months. You just can't go wrong.
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Old 07-06-2012, 22:11   #11
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Blued Colt series '70. Either new or used, thats what I'd get. Even if it means saving up for an extra few months. You just can't go wrong.
If you get a Colt you will def. be getting, by far, the best looking roll mark ever. IMO anyways.
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Old 07-06-2012, 22:49   #12
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What parts are sub-par on a RIA? None of them have a firing pin block/safety.
More of an if/as needed thing. I'm not an anti-MIM snob or anything, but the huge price difference in entry level 1911's makes me cautious is all. I have heard great things about the RIA's.
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Old 07-06-2012, 23:32   #13
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What about find a used Colt Series 70 or older?
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Old 07-07-2012, 17:06   #14
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If you want a half way decent pistol in the GI type configuration, there are tons on the market that will keep the price low. From the better Springfield GI and Milspec models, to the Philippine made guns.

Now if you only want to buy one gun and no others.
You may as well go with the Colt series 70's they are making today. You get a well built gun with the Colt name on it, and none of the added on lawyer bull crap.
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Does the series 80 setup really make that much of a difference? I don't think I've ever fired a 1911 with that setup. Shot a few older (pre 80's) Colts and the Kimber 9mm I used to own had the Schwartz safety that didn't feel any different. I'm not looking for a 2lb competition trigger. As long as the break is crisp, I don't mind a little heavier trigger. How does the series 80 trigger differ? Takeup? Break? Reset? Just wondering...
Its not so much that as the fact that you said you wanted a classic 1911.

The Remington is far from it.
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Old 07-07-2012, 18:59   #16
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Does the series 80 setup really make that much of a difference? I don't think I've ever fired a 1911 with that setup. Shot a few older (pre 80's) Colts and the Kimber 9mm I used to own had the Schwartz safety that didn't feel any different. I'm not looking for a 2lb competition trigger. As long as the break is crisp, I don't mind a little heavier trigger. How does the series 80 trigger differ? Takeup? Break? Reset? Just wondering...
If you blindfold yourself so that you don't know which gun has which trigger safety or lack thereof, you can't tell the difference.
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Old 07-08-2012, 00:03   #17
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A new Colt series 70 would be really nice, but is it really worth the extra $300+ over something like a Springfield Mil-Spec or extra $150+ over a series 80 1991? Seems like both Colts and Springfields are getting kind of hard to find. A lot of the online sellers are out of stock in many of their models too.
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Is it worth the extra $150 over Series 80? To me, yes. However, if I were to have to wait for one while a Series 80 is immediately available...I wouldn't wait. But that's me. The firing pin safety doesn't bother me that much.
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If you blindfold yourself so that you don't know which gun has which trigger safety or lack thereof, you can't tell the difference.
Nice to hear your opinion on that, since you have both.
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Old 07-08-2012, 15:44   #20
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No FPS is, actually.
not among 1911 cognoscenti, i would think. regards-- deguelo
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Old 07-08-2012, 16:39   #21
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you can buy my 1975 Colt series 70 Government/LNIB satin nickled finish(round ct less than 100rds) for $900.00 and be done.(been sitting in my safe for over 35 yrs)
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Just get a nice Springfield GI and be done with it.
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Old 07-08-2012, 18:04   #23
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If you get a Colt you will def. be getting, by far, the best looking roll mark ever. IMO anyways.
These are two of the nicest examples of a 1911. The roll marks mimic the early Colts.

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The blued model is absolutely astounding. The bluing is beautiful.

These are Cimarron Arms 1911s made in the Phillipines. IIRC, they are made by RIA. Brian, correct me if I am wrong. It is hard to keep them straight.
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If you blindfold yourself so that you don't know which gun has which trigger safety or lack thereof, you can't tell the difference.

Maybe, but it depends on the gun. Ive fired a few kimbers and a few Colts, and I can definately tell a difference vs. my TRP. Maybe I couldn't with a GI model, but a gun with a good trigger job like my TRP there is a noticable difference. I can feel the trigger dragging a little on the FPS guns. It is negligable though.
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Springfield GI if you are on a budget.
Colt Series 70 if you can afford a few more bucks.

Avoid the Colt 1991, very poor in retaining value.
Series 80 triggers CAN be worked to the point of feeling like a
series 70, but it takes a pistol smith like Chuck Rogers.
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