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07-27-2012, 21:07
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Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/oreg...r-his-property
(CNSNews.com) – A rural Oregon man was sentenced Wednesday to 30 days in jail and over $1,500 in fines because he had three reservoirs on his property to collect and use rainwater.
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07-27-2012, 21:22
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Well! You can't let just anyone have water!
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07-27-2012, 21:24
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Originally Posted by zeke501
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That isn't too far from me and Oregon's water laws are a terrible tanged mess. Part of them were hijacked by the enviromentalists as was the ageny in charge and eventually you end up with AT LEAST 2 agencies or more when it comes to water issues.
a friend on mine is fighting it right now in regards to prospecting/mining. You can get a permit from one agency but if someone from the other ageny decides they don't like what you are doing they can claim it falls under their agencies domain and stop you.
I have a feeling that in the next coupple of years it is going to "come to a head" especially if unemployment remains a high as it is (coincidentally in the gold bearing areas) and gold prices stay high.
The farmers and miners are both getting hurt by the economy and the regulators, they may not be able to change the economy, but the regulators are expendable and the rules can be changed
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07-27-2012, 21:28
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07-27-2012, 21:31
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zeke501
Next they will sic the EPA on him an claim all his land as wetlands ! He will loose cause the Government is king! Good luck in your fight buddy I sure hope you have deep pockets!
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07-27-2012, 22:10
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According to Oregon water laws, all water is publicly owned. Therefore, anyone who wants to store any type of water on their property must first obtain a permit from state water managers.
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That's what they think.
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07-27-2012, 22:15
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In Florida, they MAKE us build ponds to retain water. It keeps the water from flowing out to sea and it soaks into the ground to replenish the underground aquifer that gives us our drinking water.
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07-27-2012, 22:43
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She's right.
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Originally Posted by countrygun
Part of them were hijacked by the enviromentalists
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Oregon has been turned into crap by kalifornians fleeing their own crappy state. Kalifornians have the sewage touch. Everything they touch turns to crap.
Just like kalifornia. Just like Washington State. Just like Colorado.
I used to hate our hot and humid summers (Oklahoma). But now I realize it keeps the kommifornians out.
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07-27-2012, 23:18
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Oh No. Wonder if I could be in trouble for the rain barrels at my remote cabin. Guess I better start hand digging a well out there.
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07-28-2012, 07:05
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Originally Posted by teumessian_fox
Oregon has been turned into crap by kalifornians fleeing their own crappy state. Kalifornians have the sewage touch. Everything they touch turns to crap.
Just like kalifornia. Just like Washington State. Just like Colorado.
I used to hate our hot and humid summers (Oklahoma). But now I realize it keeps the kommifornians out.
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It’s sad but this is facts I witnessed Washington state turn into little Californian and soon I will have to move my family out of Oregon  . I think I will try Montana next or just go back to Wyoming.
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07-28-2012, 09:49
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According to Oregon water laws, all water is publicly owned. Therefore, anyone who wants to store any type of water on their property must first obtain a permit from state water managers.
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How long will be before they came up with idea, that air is even more "publicly owned"(it's everywhere!) and make the law and tax people for the right to breath? I think judge Roberts will be O.K. with it.
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07-28-2012, 10:54
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this will all come to a head one day, with the economy in shambles the smart people are becoming more self reliant....government doesnt like that....thank god here in the midwest there is still some common sense
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07-28-2012, 11:11
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Oregons fight over water rights is more complicated than one might think and it goes way back in the 1800's when a sort of loophole in a "swamp reclaimation act" let one man claim vast tracts of land and attempts to prevent the wholesale hydraulic mining that raised havoc in CA.
Some of the laws were meant, and worked, back then to break the backs of a few who had twisted and abused the laws to claim huge amount of the State. Unfortunately the rules stayed on the books and are being used by environuts to harrass everyone who owns two acres or uses a gold pan on a stream
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07-28-2012, 11:19
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Sounds like the term "The Left Coast" is steadily achieving realization in its totality.
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07-28-2012, 11:42
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Originally Posted by JFrame
Sounds like the term "The Left Coast" is steadily achieving realization in its totality.
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Sadly true. Oregon is basically run by 4 Counties. All 4 have been invaded and taken over by the infection
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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07-28-2012, 11:49
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Originally Posted by countrygun
Sadly true. Oregon is basically run by 4 Counties. All 4 have been invaded and taken over by the infection
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It brings to mind the analogy of the swarms of locusts. Leftist doctrine feeds off of the producers, and when it has ravaged a region, moves on to riper pickings.
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07-28-2012, 11:57
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Originally Posted by JFrame
It brings to mind the analogy of the swarms of locusts. Leftist doctrine feeds off of the producers, and when it has ravaged a region, moves on to riper pickings.
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That is more apt than you know
The ideaology has sucked CA dry and they are looking for more hosts.
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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07-28-2012, 11:58
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Originally Posted by countrygun
That is more apt than you know
The ideaology has sucked CA dry and they are looking for more hosts.
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Yup -- Texas, gird yourselves!
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07-28-2012, 16:18
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I pay taxes on my land,anything that falls on it is mine.'08.
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07-28-2012, 17:50
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Originally Posted by kirgi08
I pay taxes on my land,anything that falls on it is mine.'08.
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Yeah -- the State laying claim to the water that happens to land on your property is just wrong.
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07-28-2012, 18:06
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Originally Posted by JFrame
Yeah -- the State laying claim to the water that happens to land on your property is just wrong.
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Like i said, it goes back to a time when "land barons" grabbed huge amounts of land, including the very headwaters of rivers and streams and could control all water from there down. In those days nobody thought of the law being used as it is today.
The libtard environazis got ahold of the law, put libtards in the agencies and libtard Judges on the Bench, and everyone else got screwed. The rural representatives to the State Senate, are outnumbered and out spent and the Governor (don't get me started on that putz) still has a veto.
I can't really speak about the "resistance" movement except to say "it's growing" faster every day.
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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07-28-2012, 20:32
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Yup -- Texas, gird yourselves!
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If you look at electoral maps, Texas is inching closer and closer to being a swing state. Liberals, Mexican immigrants, and New Orleans immigrants. Texas badly needs more oil wells and refineries to counteract them.
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07-29-2012, 07:53
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Does this mean if rain causes flooding, erosion and damage on my property the state needs to pay for it? I mean if its public water which causes the damage...?
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07-29-2012, 08:40
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Originally Posted by pugman
Does this mean if rain causes flooding, erosion and damage on my property the state needs to pay for it? I mean if its public water which causes the damage...?
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That's flipping the cards.'08.
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07-29-2012, 09:20
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Originally Posted by pugman
Does this mean if rain causes flooding, erosion and damage on my property the state needs to pay for it? I mean if its public water which causes the damage...?
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That is a very interesting thought and I would LOVE to hear their argument otherwise!
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