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08-05-2012, 14:24
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I sure hope the shooter wasn't one of their new carry permit holders.
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08-05-2012, 14:27
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Florist
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Originally Posted by frank4570
Dang. From what I understand Sikhs are pretty dang cool. This really sucks.
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Originally Posted by GlockPistola
Prayers to all the victims. Sikhs are very peaceful people, I know quite a few of them. Maybe they should start considering carrying.
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Yeah, I know a few of them also and they ARE good people.
The Shiks have a martial tradition and reputation as fierce worriers. OK they had one major hiccup. Shiks are (or were) the sole cast allowed to join the ranks of bodyguards to India's Prime Ministers. Unfortunitely, in 1984, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was assassinated by two of her own Shik bodyguards. As the Brits would say, "that was in rather bad taste."
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In a gun fight, even doing everything right can still get you killed.
Last edited by Patchman; 08-05-2012 at 14:32..
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08-05-2012, 14:29
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40 miles from my house.
We had one similiar to this back in 05'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Ratzmann
Except in this case this particular religous group met in a Sheraton Hotel I drive by every day on my way to work
I've have said it since the Colorado shooting (and really for years)..instead of a immature response of banning guns..lets return to the old west...anyone who passes a background check can open carry at any time...anywhere.
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08-05-2012, 14:34
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#29
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Originally Posted by pugman
40 miles from my house.
We had one similiar to this back in 05'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Ratzmann
Except in this case this particular religous group met in a Sheraton Hotel I drive by every day on my way to work
I've have said it since the Colorado shooting (and really for years)..instead of a immature response of banning guns..lets return to the old west...anyone who passes a background check can open carry at any time...anywhere. |
I think its time we all stop talking about it and open carry everywhere we legally can.
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08-05-2012, 14:41
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#30
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
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WI is an Open Carry state.
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08-05-2012, 14:53
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Florist
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Originally Posted by TBO
WI is an Open Carry state.
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What is this, a segue for XXPilot and BATgal? 
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There are at least two sides to every story. I just heard yours and, indeed, you appear to be the victim. But I can't stop wondering what the other side has to say. :dunno:
In a gun fight, even doing everything right can still get you killed.
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08-05-2012, 14:58
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Originally Posted by Patchman
Any officer from a privatized police force as the lowest bidder could have done just as well...  |
Seriously! And to top it all off, if he becomes permanently disabled due to being shot were gonna be footing the bill for this deadbeat for the rest of his life!!!!!
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08-05-2012, 15:06
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Originally Posted by Patchman
It's also possible the shooter confused the Shiks with Arabs/Islamists. That's happened in the past because Shiks wear turbans and beards
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I was thinking that, too.
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08-05-2012, 15:09
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
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"A law enforcement official told NBC News the gunman who opened fire at the Sikh temple was dressed in tactical gear and armed with a single handgun."
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08-05-2012, 15:21
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here we go..... .....cue bloomberg.......
waiting........
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08-05-2012, 15:23
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Is it legal in WI to carry in a place of worship?
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08-05-2012, 15:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patchman
Any officer from a privatized police force as the lowest bidder could have done just as well... |
Let me put this another way: I would consider any person who had suffered multiple gunshot wounds and still managed to shoot and kill a mass murderer to be a hero.
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08-05-2012, 15:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TBO
"A law enforcement official told NBC News the gunman who opened fire at the Sikh temple was dressed in tactical gear and armed with a single handgun."
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We need to hurry up and pass a law that no one will read banning tatical gear, for the children.
Best wishes to all those hurt and to the family of those killed.
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08-05-2012, 15:41
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Originally Posted by GlockPistola
Prayers to all the victims. Sikhs are very peaceful people, I know quite a few of them. Maybe they should start considering carrying. Can't wait to hear what Bloomberg will say about this one.
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actually in their holy book they are suppose to carry a kirpan ( a dagger or short sword) as a reminder of their faith and it ranks up there with a beard and turban as one every sikh is suppose to carry. I'm friends with a few and the argument whether the holy book meant just the dagger or (like the second amendment argument) means modern day firearms (tradition vs. defense) is a pretty vocal discussion.
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Originally Posted by oISHUTupNrocKIo
He's actually wrong, after 8-9 shots with a 9mm bullet, you actually get a text on your phone saying "You are being shot at by a 9mm, don't worry, just ignore him and walk away."
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Last edited by raven11; 08-05-2012 at 15:42..
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08-05-2012, 16:31
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Originally Posted by TBO
If beforehand someone had seen a man walking around with a gun and called Police, would they be a hero, or a jerk harassing a man for "doing nothing wrong"?
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If was in NYC I'm sure the officer would tell him these are his streets! and then threaten to shove his **ck down his throat. But that's cool because he wears a badge right?
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Last edited by BossGodfrey; 08-05-2012 at 16:31..
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08-05-2012, 16:37
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Rookie city for Conceal and Carry
This NOV. 2011 Wisconsin's new concealed carry law passed. 
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08-05-2012, 16:40
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I read on another forum that he allegedly called the temple to find out when they would be their busiest.
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08-05-2012, 16:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patchman
Yeah, I know a few of them also and they ARE good people.
The Shiks have a martial tradition and reputation as fierce worriers. OK they had one major hiccup. Shiks are (or were) the sole cast allowed to join the ranks of bodyguards to India's Prime Ministers. Unfortunitely, in 1984, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was assassinated by two of her own Shik bodyguards. As the Brits would say, "that was in rather bad taste."
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You know why her Sikh bodyguard gunned her down? Because she ordered the Indian Army to assault the Golden Temple, which is the religious center of Sikhism. And she kept her Sikh bodyguards on the job afterwards. How much of a dumbass do you need to be be to do that? 
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08-05-2012, 16:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raven11
actually in their holy book they are suppose to carry a kirpan ( a dagger or short sword) as a reminder of their faith and it ranks up there with a beard and turban as one every sikh is suppose to carry. I'm friends with a few and the argument whether the holy book meant just the dagger or (like the second amendment argument) means modern day firearms (tradition vs. defense) is a pretty vocal discussion.
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Very interesting. If carrying the dagger was meant to be functional as well as a symbolic representation of their faith, then I'd say it would be appropriate to carry both, the dagger for the symbolism and the handgun for the function since a dagger would not be as functional today.
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08-05-2012, 16:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOH212
Is it legal in WI to carry in a place of worship?
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Yes, unless signs posted.
And I do every Sunday.
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08-05-2012, 16:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbak
I think its time we all stop talking about it and open carry everywhere we legally can.
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08-05-2012, 16:59
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Cops are searching a duplex in Cudahy Wi real close to Oak Creek Wi.
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08-05-2012, 17:03
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Eye witness is saying four men dressed in black did the shooting, but police say it was only one.
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Last edited by GlockPistola; 08-05-2012 at 17:11..
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08-05-2012, 17:08
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I'm watching the local news and it was only 1 shooter who is now deceased due to a brave Oak Creek officer who took him out after getting shot!
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08-05-2012, 17:32
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How sad. It could have been a lot worse, thankfully an officer was able to end the threat. I too am awaiting the anti honky media storm, you just know they're licking their lips over this one.
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