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Old 08-06-2012, 05:32   #101
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on the home page it said "active soldier from fort bragg, CA)
Tim, read my edited post .tom.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:46   #102
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So a 9/11 tattoo on the dead shooter, made this domestic terrorism? Really?!? I know many FF's, LEO's, .mil's, etc., who all have 9/11 tattoos.
Yeah, I know a few also. I'm just waiting for the day one of those I know shoots up a church/temple/house of worship so I can say "I know a domestic terrorist..."





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Old 08-06-2012, 05:59   #103
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My pal who runs the beer store is Sikh. He and his father are 2 of the nicest men I know. Why anyone would confuse them with radical Islamists is beyond me.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:22   #104
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I don't understand how a muslim guy shooting up an army processing center does not fit the profile of domestic terrorism but a while guy shooting up a sikh temple does.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:38   #105
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No PTSD claim yet?
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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:45   #106
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CNN is saying he's a white supremacist.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/us/wis...ss_igoogle_cnn


It also states the police are looking to see if it's domestic terrorism, not calling it domestic terrorism.
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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?

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Old 08-06-2012, 07:12   #107
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It also states the police are looking to see if it's domestic terrorism, not calling it domestic terrorism.
Well, you know how it is in a police state. The cops have to always be right. So if they're "thinking" possible domestic terrorism, it HAS to end up being domestic terrorism.

Why? Because cops are always right and have to have the last word! WORD!

Oh, BTW, I learned that on GNG.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:38   #108
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:12   #109
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Maybe the guy wasn't looking to shoot up Muslims. Maybe he did want to target the Indians.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:12   #110
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on the home page it said "active soldier from fort bragg, CA)

"URGENT: Sources close to the investigation tell Fox News they have identified the suspect in shooting at a Sikh temple that left seven dead as Wade Michael Page, 40, an active Army serviceman out of Fort Bragg, Calif."
Turns out, he was kicked out of the Army in 1998, with an Other Than Honorable discharge, so not a "War on Terror" (GWOT) vet.

Apparently he was a white power skinhead and the lead singer of a band called "End Appathy."

That says, in turn, that terrorism is probably as good a label as any.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:19   #111
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IF this is who my best friend thinks it is (same name, age, time in Army, etc), then he didn't care about any difference between Sikhs and Muslims. He was an equal opportunity racist who hated everybody not Caucasian-of-European-descent-flavor.

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Old 08-06-2012, 08:32   #112
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Maybe the guy wasn't looking to shoot up Muslims. Maybe he did want to target the Indians.
Oh, no, no, no. Nobody is saying he was looking to shoot up Muslims. Early in the thread, one question raised was the shooter's motivation, or "why?" Why shoot up a Sikh temple full of Sikh worshipers. (most posters knew Sikhs as "good people").

Some crazy gunman shooting up a bunch of Muslims is always a viable concern. But as these victims were Sikhs, the possibility was raised that they were mistaken for Muslims.

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that right now in the Mid-East, many, many news media outlets are telling their readers/viewers that the Sikh temple was shot by mistake, and the gunman, a U.S. military trained killer, was really gunning for Muslims.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:52   #113
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:46   #114
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I don't understand how a muslim guy shooting up an army processing center does not fit the profile of domestic terrorism but a while guy shooting up a sikh temple does.
Major Hasan didn't fit the narrative.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:54   #115
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Seems ironic that this guy worked in a psy ops unit in the military. You would think they would have a better psychological screening of people in this type of operation.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/...litary-member/
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:08   #116
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Seems ironic that this guy worked in a psy ops unit in the military. You would think they would have a better psychological screening of people in this type of operation.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/...litary-member/
He was kicked out of the Army 14 years ago when he was 26. I don't see how it has any relevance to this at all.
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He was kicked out of the Army 14 years ago when he was 26. I don't see how it has any relevance to this at all.
Don't matter to the people who have a grudge against the military. People like our President and some LEO's on GT.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:18   #118
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He was kicked out of the Army 14 years ago when he was 26. I don't see how it has any relevance to this at all.
It mattered when he was working in that unit, that's what I mean, he was able to get that position.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:20   #119
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Don't matter to the people who have a grudge against the military. People like our President and some LEO's on GT.
LEOs on GT who are anti military?

In the past, LEOs on GT were accused as being blindingly pro-U.S. military.

When you cry "wolf," there better be wolf. You're going to have to show posts to back up your claim. So which poster and what did they say?
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:24   #120
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No PTSD claim yet?
How about this one? Want me to find more?
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:44   #121
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The quote from the chief says it is being "treated as a domestic terrorist incident" which is exactly the correct step since it is a mass shooting of strangers at a place of worship.
No the Chief said it was domestic terrorism because it was an someone in the confines of America doing it.
Skip to about the 8 minute mark.

So under that definition why aren't all the murderers in Chicago domestic terrorism?

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CNN is saying he's a white supremacist.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/us/wis...ss_igoogle_cnn


It also states the police are looking to see if it's domestic terrorism, not calling it domestic terrorism.
See above post.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:50   #123
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I'm pretty sure they consider it an act of terrorism because he decided to kill a bunch of people based on their religion. Maybe you missed that part.
Maybe you made up that part, again see post above.
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How about this one? Want me to find more?
And your point being...? Past news stories about .mil vets and killings will routinely link the vet with PTSD. Or question if it was caused by PTSD.

For your information, PTSD is for real. Obviously there are different degrees of the disease, and different vets are affected differently. But PTSD is for real and there's no shame is acknowledging that. Nor is it anti-military to acknowledge that PTSD exists.

Yes, find more. Because now you're starting to come across as being more retarded.

Dang guy, start wearing those rose colored glasses.
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It just occurred to me. In all past cases of mass killings where a .gov vet was involved, how many were from the Navy (not Marines) or Air Force?

Any studies on that?
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