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Old 08-13-2012, 14:09   #251
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(Personally, I hold Officers to a higher standard than Enlisted personnel.)
What about haircuts? The higher the fade, the higher the standard, right?

And shouldn't Lieutenants be allowed to have sideburns? I mean come on... give 'em something...

(j/k... there's only one standard... THE ARMY STANDARD. It doesn't matter what you have on your collar)

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Not so fast, we are still waiting on the unnatural carnal copulation definition.
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UCMJ article 125 leaves it open for interpretation it seems.
No... it's not. Read post #121 or click my lmgtfy link and read the first reference.

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Old 08-13-2012, 14:34   #252
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You just make reference to their supposed desire to destroy the institution of the family and point to, as evidence, a supposed 'homosexual manifesto.'


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Old 08-13-2012, 14:42   #253
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Well, no, not really. The real truth is that PC promotions and Affirmative Action always result in lowered standards and a weaker military. Many of us see that and are saddened by it.

So yeah, my team lost.

Yea, just pulled up the text now.

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient
to complete the offense.

Hmmm, so oral isn't natural.

I think you should man up and apologize for the ignorant posts you and Chute have put into this thread. I'm not holding my breath though, integrity here is next to non-existent.
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Old 08-13-2012, 15:24   #254
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What about ring knockers getting promoted before others? It's been going on for ages now, so which part of Affirmative Action/Political Correctness is that?

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Sadly, that was (is?) true in some cases. When Affirmative Action was first instituted, the services jumped through the hoops in an effort to level the playing field as quickly as possible. There was a period when the field was over-tilted beyond level; and things were more "affirmative" than they should have been.

It's just a fact of life that military promotions at the upper echelons have always been influenced, to a degree, by politics. It's equally true that non-whites being considered for higher ranks in the early days of Affirmative Action reaped the benefits of "being in the right place at the right time."

I've been retired too long to know if the same situation still exists; but I suspect it is less of an issue now than it was during the seventies.
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Old 08-13-2012, 15:42   #255
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What about ring knockers getting promoted before others? It's been going on for ages now, so which part of Affirmative Action/Political Correctness is that?
Read my post that you quoted again. Nowhere did I use the term Political Correctness. The ring knocker example you mentioned was/is a big part of the political process. No doubt about that. However, it can hardly be compared with Political Correctness. It is more closely related to the "good ol' boy" syndrome in local politics.
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Old 08-13-2012, 16:07   #256
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Anyone surprised? Really??


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Old 08-13-2012, 17:08   #257
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The real question is was she promoted because of her sexuality or in spite of it?

Regardless...promotion party following the ceremony to be held at the "Don't ask don't tell club."
This is a political general put on the fast track of promotion by the Obama Administration.

The Left is cementing their power by taking over more of the establishment.

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Old 08-13-2012, 17:23   #258
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This is a political general put on the fast track of promotion by the Obama Administration.

The Left is cementing their power by taking over more of the establishment.
Any evidence to back this up?
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Old 08-13-2012, 17:24   #259
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Nice precedent here, military personel only have to follow orders they agree with.
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Any evidence to back this up?
How about the fact that her qualification for the post is that she is an open homosexual?

Yes, it's a major accomplishment for the Obama administration to have made a lesbian into a general.

Again, the far left has been taking over the establishment. The Saul Alinsky playbook is to destroy from within. It's all about "fundamentaly changing America", A culture war.

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Old 08-13-2012, 17:32   #261
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How about the fact that her qualification for the post is that she is an open homosexual?

Yes the liberals have been saying that it's a major accomplishment for the Obama administration to have made a lesbian into a general.

Again, the far left has been taking over the establishment. The Saul Alynskin playbook is to bore from within. It's all about fundamentaly changing America. A culture war.
Those sneaky homos.....
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Those sneaky homos.....
She was certainly that for much of her military career. Had she been open in the beginning then she would never have been allowed to join the military.

BTW, How about the sneaky marxist we got for a president?

The "flying under the radar" strategy seems to be working.

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She was certainly that for much of her military career. Had she been open in the beginning then she would never have been allowed to join the military.

BTW, How about the sneaky marxist we got for a president?

The "flying under the radar" strategy seems to be working.
They'll take over before we know it!
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They'll take over before we know it!
The point of this discussion thread is that they just did!
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Obama promised to "fundamentally change America" and this is part of it. It's a culture war, one that the far Left has been waging since the late 1960s.

That some here have bought into it is because they are generally young and have been weaned on the PCism of the Clinton years.
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Old 08-13-2012, 18:17   #266
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Soon they'll make us all be gay too!
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Not about gay marriage per se, but the image still fits the shoe.


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Old 08-13-2012, 18:38   #268
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How about the fact that her qualification for the post is that she is an open homosexual?
Do you have information that indicates that her only qualification for the post is that she is a homosexual?

She's a flag officer. Even if you ignore this most recent promotion, that means she's gone before officer selection boards many, many times before in her career, and managed to get promoted to bird colonel without telling anyone that she was a homosexual.

You, if I remember correctly, are an Army plumber.

Do you honestly think that you are more qualified to evaluate whether this woman is capable of performing at flag rank than the officer selection board that put the stars on her shoulder?
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Do you have information that indicates that her only qualification for the post is that she is a homosexual?

She's a flag officer. Even if you ignore this most recent promotion, that means she's gone before officer selection boards many, many times before in her career, and managed to get promoted to bird colonel without telling anyone that she was a homosexual.

You, if I remember correctly, are an Army plumber.

Do you honestly think that you are more qualified to evaluate whether this woman is capable of performing at flag rank than the officer selection board that put the stars on her shoulder?
Maybe he sits on such boards.









Somehow I doubt it.
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Old 08-13-2012, 18:50   #270
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I get that many on the right are against gays in the military. We get it. However, the vitriol shown in this thread towards someone who is serving our country is really disturbing. Are you really telling me that being gay trumps everything she did in the military for 20+ years?
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Old 08-13-2012, 18:52   #271
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In matters such as these the chickens always come home to roost. Few today know that Colin Powell was made a brigadier not due to merit, but rather because President Carter asked Sec. Harold Brown why there were no minorities on the promotion list on his desk. Last election we saw the proverbial dog return to their own vomit.

The Military has been neutered.
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Do you have information that indicates that her only qualification for the post is that she is a homosexual?

She's a flag officer. Even if you ignore this most recent promotion, that means she's gone before officer selection boards many, many times before in her career, and managed to get promoted to bird colonel without telling anyone that she was a homosexual.

You, if I remember correctly, are an Army plumber.

Do you honestly think that you are more qualified to evaluate whether this woman is capable of performing at flag rank than the officer selection board that put the stars on her shoulder?

Hey man! Someone's gotta make sure her turds get flushed, while complaining about her sexuality, and other things that have nothing to do with whether or not she can or can't do the job.
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Soon they'll make us all be gay too!
Nooooooooooo!
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At least when they do, we'll have each other!



I'd make the worlds worst gay.

Some years back I was assigned a gay guy as a hotel roommate at a corporate meeting. After the first day he demanded his boss get him his own room.

I'm like gay repellant.
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