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Old 08-31-2012, 13:59   #41
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There is NO Tennifer process being used on Glocks anywhere, Austria or here.
I've confirmed this with a Glock rep.
He calls the current process Gas Nitriding. Specifically says NO TENNIFER.
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Old 08-31-2012, 14:31   #42
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There is NO Tennifer process being used on Glocks anywhere, Austria or here.
I've confirmed this with a Glock rep.
He calls the current process Gas Nitriding. Specifically says NO TENNIFER.
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Well somebody better tell Glock about this!!!

http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm
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Old 08-31-2012, 14:44   #43
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Well somebody better tell Glock about this!!!

http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm
I'll say. Maybe they are using a different N2 donor medium here in the US- it's possible I guess. Still, I find it hard not to defer to the primary info source, Glock, for the process they are using.

Maybe that particular Glock rep is mistaken. Those at the bottom of the organizational structure are typically treated like mushrooms- kept in the dark and fed B---S--T - and it is more than likely he is the one who is mistaken.

If the Glock website says Tenifer, then Tenifer it is!
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Old 08-31-2012, 14:59   #44
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The answer to my question took over a month to get while the Glock press rep chased it down. He wanted to be precise, and the emailed answer came on Thursday independently of anything going on here.

He wouldn't answer it conclusively till he had a conclusive answer that could be published.
My money's on him.
I can't tell you how many times I've found websites woefully behind & incomplete.

Now, this means you can ignore what Glock's PR people are telling the press & go with your own info, or you can accept what Glock's PR people are putting out for publication & go with that.

I have better things to do than make up stories for Internet forums & only got into this thread because I had current info from a reliable source.
If you can do better, by all means have at it.
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Old 08-31-2012, 15:16   #45
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GLOCK's official websites have been known to be quite out of date. This includes the international version (http://eu.glock.com), where the mention of Tenifer is still there, and the US version (http://us.glock.com), where any mention of Tenifer has been removed. I wouldn't trust the websites for up-to-date news (which is unfortunate).
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Old 08-31-2012, 16:43   #46
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Well the link I provided has info on Gen 4 guns, so it's not THAT out-of-date.

I'll trust the website before I trust hearsay info.
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Old 08-31-2012, 16:57   #47
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Well the link I provided has info on Gen 4 guns, so it's not THAT out-of-date.

I'll trust the website before I trust hearsay info.
Same here, Deputy.

It looks like the Glock employee that I spoke with has been "over-ruled" by the Glock employee that Dpris spoke with.

Darn.
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Old 08-31-2012, 17:16   #48
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Gentlemen,
I'm on Glock's emailing list.
It's my business to deal with people in responsible positions inside the various makers in the industry. It's also my business to obtain & pass on accurate information.

The source of my information is a contact at Leader Enterprises, an ad agency Glock uses for press purposes.
This did not come from a janitor at Glock.
This information was given to me by a guy at that agency who researched it from Glock & passed it on in answer to my specific question weeks ago about whether Glock is still using a Tennifer process anywhere.
The answer to my question was given with full knowledge of who he was giving it to, and that it was going to turn up in print somewhere.

You probably have no idea how Gaston Glock deals with people who speak out of turn either within his company or on behalf of it, but the results are typically swift and unpleasant for the offender.
I'll tell you this- the info I passed on to you guys would not have been given to me, knowing I'd print it (and I'm not talking about here), unless it were sanctioned by the company.
It would have been my contact's job on the line. Very literally.

If you feel the Glock website comes directly from the lips of God, that's nice.
If you have better info, great.
In the meantime, what I gave you was given to a member of the gun press by a spokesperson at Glock's ad agency, after taking several weeks to check it out and get to the point where he felt comfortable in answering me.

Call it hearsay if you wish.
I've given you more accurate info than an incomplete website.
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Old 08-31-2012, 19:54   #49
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So the best source of info is a guy who knows a guy that's connected to a guy that is buddy with another guy that works with a guy that serves Schnapps to Gaston on the weekends. Riiiiiiight.

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Old 08-31-2012, 20:23   #50
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I don't know why this seems to be so difficult for you.
I've given you info from an ad account executive representing Glock.
He will not pass on info about the company & its processes to the press without company verification & approval, which he got. It would be his job if he did.

If you find an outdated website put up by faceless webmasters to be more reliable, run with it.

Every once in a while I try to pass on some helpful info on a discussion in progress, and 90% of the time there's a sarcastic response from somebody who'd stand there & go blind while looking directly into the sun & denying it came up today.

You can't accept it? OK.
Your choice, won't change the facts.
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Old 08-31-2012, 21:05   #51
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I don't know why this seems to be so difficult for you.
I've given you info from an ad account executive representing Glock.
He will not pass on info about the company & its processes to the press without company verification & approval, which he got. It would be his job if he did.

If you find an outdated website put up by faceless webmasters to be more reliable, run with it.

Every once in a while I try to pass on some helpful info on a discussion in progress, and 90% of the time there's a sarcastic response from somebody who'd stand there & go blind while looking directly into the sun & denying it came up today.

You can't accept it? OK.
Your choice, won't change the facts.
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The website I linked to has info on the Glock Gen 4 pistols. I would hardly call it outdated. If you want to believe second and third hand word-of-mouth that's YOUR choice. The internet is chock full of rumors about tenifer being illegal (which is BS, since S&W is using melonite, same thing as tenifer, made by the same company). Don't try and force feed your opinions on us.
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Old 08-31-2012, 21:33   #52
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Old 08-31-2012, 22:27   #53
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Deputy,
What is it about direct info from Glock's press reps that you perist in calling second & third hand word of mouth?
These are the people responsible for giving out information FROM Glock.
They are PAID to do so BY Glock.
They are PAID by Glock to deal with the gun press.
That's hardly second-hand word of mouth.

OK, YOU call Glock & ask.
In the meantime, take it or leave it.
Makes no further difference to me.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:18   #54
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I'll leave it.
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Old 09-01-2012, 14:02   #55
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Glock didnt update their website for about 5 or 6 YEARS. It was missing models and everything. I wouldnt get my up to date information from the glock website.
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Old 09-01-2012, 20:25   #56
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Glock didnt update their website for about 5 or 6 YEARS. It was missing models and everything. I wouldnt get my up to date information from the glock website.
Yet they DO have information on the link I supplied about the Gen 4 guns.
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Old 09-01-2012, 21:06   #57
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Yet they DO have information on the link I supplied about the Gen 4 guns.
The GLOCK Gen4 pistols started coming out in 2010. It's been almost three years since they announced the guns (which I believe was done at Shot Show 2010, which takes place in January). Just because the website has information about the Gen4 guns doesn't mean that it's any sort of up-to-date (for instance, the "ad" on the front page is highlighting the GLOCK 19 Gen4 and GLOCK 23 Gen4, some of the first Gen4 models to be released). There are a couple of other things that the website doesn't mention, such as the 22-round GLOCK .40 magazines and the "dot" connector.

GLOCK dropping Tenifer is something that is pretty recent, so the international website (which isn't updated very often, a problem that the USA website suffers from as well) may not reflect the change.
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Old 09-01-2012, 23:24   #58
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What proof is there that Glocks are no longer Tenifered?

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Old 09-01-2012, 23:32   #59
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The pig nose is getting even worse.

Why does anyone want a US made Glock? The Austrian ones don't even work right any more. And look how much crap other US made guns get (Sig in particular)
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Old 09-01-2012, 23:45   #60
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Cowboy,
What proof?
Glock's ad agency/press contact says they're not using Tennifer anymore.

I could equally ask what proof do you have that any of their websites are up to date or accurate?

What sort of proof do you need? A metallurgy lab report?
I've been dealing with Glock for years. I've written for their Glock Annual magazine.
As I said- it's my business to have reliable contacts with a number of manufacturers.

What I gave you here comes from Glock channels, and it's current.
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